F117 br is unreasonably high when its "stealth" doesnt even work at all AND has no way to defend itself offensively or defensively,

10.0 is unreasonably high for an aircraft with only 2 bombs and no way to defend itself, not to mention the “stealth” aspect doesnt even work properly.

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should be at 8.7 with the b52

stealth does work, it heavily scales range it is detected at, its just a lot of the SAM radars have a very high maximum range so it is still detected at relevant ranges for GRB

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8.7 is too low, maybe 9.7 but I do not have it to give a complete opinion, but I have played the Strela a lot and few game on the OSA and it was easy killing the F117

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the b52 gets millions of countermeasures and a shoton of op bombs . so if u climb to space then attack in grb ur not killable. meanwhile the poor f117 is slow and nothing but two bombs

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countermeasures do nothing against SACLOS missiles, and most IR SAMs have good enough IRCCM to hit anyway

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the b52 is untouchable if u clinb high before attackign ground in grb

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as a owner of the b52 i know so.

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it is not, that is an issue with it not facing many SACLOS AA unless you uptier it
but even at its br it is still vulnerable to some of the SAMs it will fight eg type 93 or stingers/iglas

and not an effect of it having lots of countermeasures

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climb to 20km then start groundpounding wiht ur 51 750pounders and ur litteraly not killable. i know as i own the b52. the f117 is underpowered

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Stealth does not work in the way people expect. It’s not some magical cloaking device that renders your aircraft completely invisible across all wavelengths.
Instead this stealth technology makes use of geometry and radar absorbent materials to reduce its radar cross-section. It can still be detected, but it is much harder for radars to search and track as if you’re much further away. This is great for bullying early SAMs and radar SPAAS that rely on radar lock to reliably shoot down.
However, the Mark I Eyeball will never be fooled, and anyone with SACLOS missiles and a good aim will still be able to shoot you down if you fly predictably. IR missiles can still lock onto you, though their range at the BR range is quite short. Since you’re expected to fly high, they shouldn’t be an issue to begin with.

Changing its BR of 10.0 is tricky as lowering it any further will make it more likely to be untouchable as very few vehicles in a downtier would be able to counter it without fighter support

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that is not at all how stealth works in wt. it just doesnt exist

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AFAIK RCS isn’t properly modelled in WT. It looks to be just aircraft wingspan * stealth multipliers (which exist only for the F117 & RAH66). I’m somewhat skeptic radar bands even matter.
Anyhow, you’re gonna get found in a F117 by modern SPAAs no matter the distance, which is not how it should work at all.

I’d expect a revamp when 5th gen fighters arrive, along with different behaviour vs different bands, and, if we’re lucky, an in-game RCS analysis tool to check probability of detection/quality of locking parameters, but IIRC we’re not seeing stealth fighters this year.

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As much as I would like to see a buff for the f117 I don’t know if lowering the br is the answer even tho it has its cons their is matches where your practically granted two kills the down side to it is having to reload and not having enough time in a match to reload in most cases, as you do need to climb higher than 18,000 ft for aaa/spaa to have a harder times spotting you or shooting you down so maybe maybe air spawn after reloading at base Or if it carried something like the agm62a walleye bombs

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ocelot hard counters u tho

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B-52 could be 6.0 in grb and it’d still get destroyed by SPAA just because of how slow it is at low alt (if you climb you are immune to everything tho)

Bombers just don’t fit well into the game with their paper damage models

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f117 “strike aircraft” acording to gayjin btw, also a stormer should not be able to lock you at all

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IR so stealth is meaningless

the one with the radar dish i mean

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hell even putting it at 9.0 is better than the poor fella being 10.0

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