F106A no IFF…..really?

the aim 4 is not a BVR missile, the game does not need to handhold you to such an extreme level.

Fair.

My complaint is with the radar entirely.
I really don’t think the historical accuracy is a fair argument though I appreciate the information people have been providing. If historical accuracy was important, then there’s a lot more issues with the game than this. In particular, the inclusion of the HMS.

Well it is an event aircraft, and it was involved in the development of the VTAS.

I’d still expect to see a F-101B (, -101A or-C) & -102 in the tech tree at some point, If not the F-89J or-89H to actually round out the USAF interceptor line.

also how do F-16A blk10, french F-16A, Netz, F-16D Barak II, F-16AJ, F-16C Barak II, F-16A OCU and Netz (Mod) have IFF despite not having IFF interrogators

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Because Bug report manager 1 said that all radars in the game have iff by convention. No literally, that was the answer in the bug report that was accepted 3 years ago, but then rejected 6 months ago.Community Bug Reporting System
Same story for the F-18 C Community Bug Reporting System

Now i wonder if they recently changed their minds and are going to remove iff from planes that historically didn’t have interrogators, or if their next argument is gonna be that if one version of a plane had iff, then that means that every version should have acess to iff…

As for the F106A, while they were never fitted with interrogators, they had datalink that could point them to enemy aircraft tracked by ground stations, which by itself could make for an interesting mechanic that would be shared with other interceptors, like the mig-21 LAZUR-M or the J-35B.
But unlike most of those interceptors, they also were able to store navigation information data inside the ma-1 computer, and allow the pilot to select the specific homing point (like ground station or position of friendly aircraft) they want to display on the tactical situation display, so logically they should be able to see the map position of friendly aircraft in sim battles (which would be VERY helpful without iff) - and that wouldn’t require inventing a whole new mechanic.

The only thing the f106a lacks from a datalink standpoint is the ability to communicate directly with other aircraft and share target information, but that’s something you only see from the latest ja37 viggen and newer aircraft and it´s not even close to be implemented in game.

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Uh… Those BRMs dont make any sense as for example the F-5E has never had IFF and still doesnt.

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I like that there are 3 threads on the “simulaotor-battles” tag all made by different people.

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Wait do you have a source on this? Planes with IFF responders get IFF in game

yes.

https://www.f-106deltadart.com/manuals/T.O.%201F-106A-1%20(1980,%20rev.1985).pdf#page=241

further,

And for the F-102, the APX-6 is listed as IFF / SIF in the electronics box to the bottom right of the page.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170517080824/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F-102A_Delta_Dagger_SAC_-_August_1962.pdf#page=3

Please bug report this

Do we have any standing, to assert that a Transponder should qualify the airframe for conferred interrogation capabilities, as a “Gaming Convention”?

Yes, if an aircraft has a transponder then it gets IFF

It’s why the finnish F18 gets IFF because it’s an MLU 1 which has an IFF transponder (it also should have an HMD)

The first Finnish f-18c is not a mlu 1

It’s already been reported and was rejected.

F-106 missing IFF

“It only has IFF transponder, it has no IFF interrogator.”

If it wasn’t then it wouldn’t have IFF

Wait what? Hold on a second

Sure there is potential grounds, for something to do with the SAGE ground stations but something is certainly inconstant here.

@Gunjob

Any insight here, are we’re being given mixed messages as to what should qualify for IFF provisions as a gaming convention.

As the response to other reports to have IFF interrogation features removed were overrode on Gaming convention grounds.

F-16A (Non-ADF variant) unhistorical IFF interrogator

Not a bug, all radars in the game have IFF by game convention.

F-16A cannot be the only exception.

Finnish F-18C hornet lacking HMD while having IFF

Not a bug, all radars in the game have IFF by game convention.

F-18C cannot be the only exception.

" as long as it has IFF responder it has IFF features"

Direct quote from a technical moderator

I’ll ask them again

I’ll get back to you chief.

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