what load out do u use?
I use the Sparrows, usually carry bombs but depends on the map and if I’m playing for fun or to grind, just enough to destroy a base, i find the at if I take the gun i get caught up trying to dogfight and that’s what gets me killed, the Sparrows do require some planning to use effectively but if you catch someone in the right situation it can be a guaranteed kill and the AIM-9s are obviously not great with like 18-20G pull (I forget) and rear aspect however they do a surprisingly good job given the role of the aircraft as a support fighter, I can usually get a base and at least one kill in the TAF however I die much more rarely now than I used to because it’s pretty easy to keep out of the way of the better aircraft if you take max fuel and basically stay on afterburner above mach 1 at all times, even though a MiG-29 could catch you flying at mach 1.3 (which you can do relatively easily) they usually start at a much lower speed than you so you can get some distance and then use your high fuel load to force them to give up, similar with the F-16, they can carry more fuel but aren’t quite fast enough to threaten, the big threat to you as a 104 is radar missiles but they’re usually used early in the game so as long as you stay out of the way at the start you can play it pretty safe, the biggest threat (aside from R-27ET/R) is likely the F-14 or a competent F-4J/S pilot however they have a harder time keeping up with you.
I’m not saying that TAF is better or even equivalent to these aircraft however it can compete with them if you play to your strengths and it is still the best bet for grinding Italy by far
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Perfectthx for killing this plane!!! 11.3? now is every plane in game faster than this PEN! and everything can turn … speed was only advantage of thsi plane now is totaly dead… thx for ruining OWN GAME and planes what i pay for real money!!!
Still better than facing against F16 and Yak141, MiG29s
11.3 is a downtier cause the decompression was 0.7.
*Sad ASA noises
what load out did u used?
that was realistic game right?
x6 AIM-9Js and guns
ofc it is ARB games
Hi,
You seem like a wise person. Do you know or do you have any predictions on when the F104 Taf will be available for purchase again?
Honestly not a clue, I didn’t even realize it wasn’t for sale anymore, best bet would be Turkish Independence Day or Armed Forces Day, so 30th August or 29th October next year, sorry I couldn’t be more help, I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you so much for your response! I really appreciate your input and the suggestions for potential dates. Wishing you all the best as well!
:)
Bring it back, I really want it
Italy urgently needs to have a better premium aircraft, the US has the F-4, the F-20 and now the F-18.
Eh, i`d say you can be happy saving your money tbh.
Its shit in the current meta and you would be a free kill
Trust me you don’t want to waste money on that thing, it’s horrible, I would even go as far as to say it’s unplayable in it’s current state
Strongly agree, TAF is one of the worst planes in it’s BR: Non-ironically it turns worse than the WW1 bomber and most if not all WW2 bombers too, has only AIM-9Ps, it has 2 AIM7Es but the radar on the plane is so bad it’s not worth to bring them, and IF you bring them you can’t bring your 20mm cannon for some reason.
It is a F104 with a better engine, with means it is really only decent at Boom and Zoom, but at 11.3 you face F4Es that if they climb and are bringing AIM7Es too, you will die, and at the slightt uptier you are facing MIG23ML with R24R, uptiers to 12.0 facing F4S with AIM7F and excelent radars, and Mirage 1FC with Magic 2s.
Because of the amount of Premium Vehicles at 12.0/12.3, around 80% or more of your games will be uptiers, but don’t worry… even in downtiers this thing is not good, it has a slightly better acceleration than most planes at 10.7 - 12.0, but it’s not that much, and you are still flying a F104 airframe post-nerf against all the threats i just named.
If by some miracle it ever goes down to 11.0 or 10.7 where it would truly belong, them i’d say it would be a somewhat average plane to get if you want to grind italy
The reason is that’s how it operated in reality. They use the space from the removed gun for the extra electronics needed for AIM-7.
Meanwhile , we have MiG 21MF/SMT , J-7D , F-8s etc. in lower BR than it…
i don’t know how GJ compares things. It can sure go lower…
Even the F-4EJs (not the Kais) are better yet lower in BR. I just can’t find an excuse for it being 11,3 .
True, but since the snail has added some non-historical things for other planes, such as F5C, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to have both AIM7Es and the cannon on the F104 to make it a bit more bearable.
Still, i can only pray that with this sale right now, lots of people will play the TAF and make it’s stats even worse than they already are, that it will finally go down in BR