yeah, they are overall
Can you finish this sentence I don’t know what it means.
The phantoms+M2K (m2K is easily better) are better than the MLD overall
Well I meant the m2k dr1 with only 2 magic 2’s and no gun (unless pod installed), not the cs4/5. Would you still say that is the case in air rb?
The 12.0 phantom is funny. It is worse in all regard but has 2 more SARH, worth?
Yes, it’s still a Mirage 2k. Magic 2s are borderline free kills in ARB due to good IRCCM qualities/missile qualities combined with the playerbase’s lack of ability to flare properly
It isn’t worse in all regards. The phantoms have better radars/rwr/gun but have worse radar missiles and slightly worse FMs relative to what both planes face
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That’s not even the best 11.7 in the game too.
The best 11.7 in my opinion is the F-111C.
Mig-23ML is good if you want radar missiles.
F-111F is good if you want boom & zoom.
Kfir C2 is alright.
But yeah, for all-round performance I like flying the F-111C with wing sweep set to 0 degrees.
Yeah if you screw up you’re dead, but if you don’t screw up you’re a strong aircraft with 6x 9Ls and 2000 rounds of 20mm.
The 12.0 Phantom has a better radar, RWR, gun, and better radar missiles.
Except FG1, that trades the better radar missiles for better flight performance from the better engines.
Wow, you mean like the R24R which are borderline free kills in ARB due to MTI/PD and head-on against planes with no return ability
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Is not the F better on USA because of the engines and same BR?
F4S Premium has slats. F4J and FGR’s don’t lol, r.i.p
More people know how to multipath or notch than flare a magic 2 at close range
Useless to type this out
F-111C has a larger wingspan, which while the weaker engines impact acceleration, the larger wingspan help in turn rate.
Slats don’t help in sustained turns, which is why FG1 has the best sustained turn of the Phantoms.
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Very helpful comment, thank you for adding to this discussion in such an insightful way.
Pretty hard to flare magic 2s when majority of jets beloe 12.0 have pretty limited cm pops
flaring magic 2 is about precision flaring, not spamming flares.
Pretend we are daft and explain to us the difference between precision and spamming flares
i think he is talking about funneling the missile towards you by dumping to many flares
I’m still trying to figure out what precision flaring is. I mean, if I have someone on my 6, about 2km away, I’m not thinking about doing funny moves, I’m thinking about flaring and trying to turn fight.
maybe he is just so good that he can one-flare every irccm missile
Sure, if he’s only fighting AIM 9Ls and R-60Ms. Honestly, if I see a Mirage behind me, I accept my faith. If I remember correctly, I have a 2.0 KDR in the Mirage, I know how deadly those Magic 2s are from behind.
i hate flying the Mirage F1
the plane is pretty much definde by the magic 2 and once you run out it is just a really mid plane
I’m aware. It fits amazing for my Pubs playstyle, which is just a wide flank. But 1v1s? Nope, I like being able to dogfight, so Grippens, Sú jets, and F-16s are my forte, not the F1C.