F/A-18 ruined 11.7

It isn’t. It lacks speed and capability to generate it to do well. No, R-77-1s are not better than AIM-120s at high altitude. No, having more missiles does not automatically mean more success. If you aren’t fast at high alt you are dead at high alt.

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but it turns better than a F-15, and u can get ez kills with thrust vectoring + R-73

the engines aren’t the best, but are like the ones in the Su-27SM, and the Sukhois’ engines are like rockets

Ok?

This is super related to the current conversation!

bro, if u’re going to start being toxic like Nike Ajax, pls don’t do this more hard than how it is rn

You’re bringing up unrelated points.

this includes dogfighting, to its a related point

average player will die instantly when they switch off the aoa switch, this is a high skill area not low skill

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thrust vectoring is extremely useful when dogfighting at high altitude, cuz if u’re in an energy fight, u can turn even at absurdly low speeds

it is pretty unrelated to the toptier meta, having mach 1.5 at 8000m is much better than having more missiles, flying mach 1.1 at the same alt.

it isn’t, because air rb isnt a 1v1 game. You will die instantly in war thunder the moment you go slow at high altitude, period. IF you can get a 1v1, then you could utilize this.

then u can use it, if get a 1v1.

your brought up topic is maybe relevant at endgames and the best way to get kills is using the r73 in a headon and release it at like 1km distance…

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so in most games, pointless to bring up

yeah, but u can use it.

getting a 1vs1 is as rare as getting a vehicle out of lootboxes…

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the most important stuff is how fast is it, how good acellerates it and how good does it hold it speed in turns(just bc its important for dodging active radar missiles)…

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toptier Sukhois are like MiG-21.
u can get a lot of speed just going straight, but u lose it all in a single turn

Mate, the Su-30 is not that great at BVR. The radar is the best of Russia, which isn’t saying much since I have a better RWR with a biplane than any Russian plane.

Pointless to bring up.