Phoenixes, especially with the recent changes to multipathing, are an extra deadly tool the F-14 gets in its kit which the Phantom just doesn’t. Sparrows aren’t really comparable, especially when they have to go up against 27ERs.
The F-4EJ Kai does not currently see F-15s and SU-27s slinging AMRAAM/Darters. If you think it should with the upcoming changes at 12.7, with non-IRCCM missiles, the worst flight performance of any top-tier phantom, and sparrows, you need to see a mental health specialist ASAP because something’s not right up there.
Specifically your post has a gaslight ad-hom in it.
AIM-7Fs are superior to AIM-54s in everything but range when fired from an aircraft whose host radar is an all-aspect PD radar.
The only F-14 with a better radar than F-4EJ Kai’s is the F-14D.
well now that the Phantom is 0.3 br higher than the Mig-23ML(It’s only real competitor that kept it balanced) it should receive the 9Ls. It is the same br as the Tornado F.3(Has a bit higher turn radius but has boz pods) and the JAS-37D Viggen which has 6x AIM-9Ls or 4x AIM-9Ls and 2x RB-71(DF). The main issue with it getting AIM-9Ls is compression it can face F-5Cs and other planes that wouldn’t stand a chance against a fighter with 9Ls but they still exist at the same br as the F-4S so there is no point in not adding them. Also who decided that the F-4J needed to go to the same BR as the F-4S?
The F-4J is superior to the Mig-23ML in missiles, airframe, and radar.
F-4J getting 9Ls would make it 12.3.
JAS-37 is under-BR’d and dogfights FAR worse than F-4J.
F-4J is vastly superior to Mig-23MLD currently.
F-4J and F-4S are effectively the same…
yes but the F-4S should be different from the F-4J. I think gaijin needs to add 14.7 soon and/or change all their br changes to be a lot more balanced. Gaijin really screwed up the possible F-4 variants that can be added by adding the F-4S as a premium
In my opinion, add AIM-9H on F-4J but AIM-7E instead AIM-7F because nerf medium-range Air-to-Air Missile . and reverse BR to 11.0 (Air AB) and 11.3 (Air RB & Air SB)
I might want F-4N with AIM-9L & AIM-7F at 12.0 BR between F-4J & F-14A Early to rank 8 in the future
Adding the F-4N would be quite cool
What about the F-4B in between the F-8E and have the F-8E moved down to Rank VI?
The main issue with the Phantoms is that a lot of Phantoms and armaments are missing.
A option for a air force phantom that has 9Ls is the Turkish Terminator 2020 or the Greek Peace Icarus
They should just rename the premium F-4S to F-4J Not improved
Personally, I think F-4N similar to F-4S (premium pack), armed AIM-9L and General Electric J79-GE-8B smokeless engine but old F-4B airframe and retained AN/APQ-72 radar
F-4B would be 10.7 BR but in folder with F-4J in rank VII
Stay to rank VII. but in the future F8U-2 move to rank VII and in a folder with F-8E
Not change name premium F-4S to F-4J. It might be F-4S (premium) from 1979
F-4J from tech tree AIM-7F replace with AIM-7E because nerf semi active radar homing. but AIM-7E-2 switch to tier IV instead AIM-7F, and AIM-7E move down to tier III
This changes nothing. In terms of historical accuracy, if the F-4J receives them, the F-4S should absolutely receive them as well, given it was introduced at a later date as the upgraded version of the F-4J. Either that, or only the F-4S receives them. Take your pick.
Just because something is a premium, doesn’t exclude it from getting its historical armament. Plenty of premiums already have All-aspects anyway (MiG-23ML, Mirage F1C-200, F-20A, Su-25K, Su-39, A-10A (early), A6E Tram (early), MiG-21 Bison, MiG-21 Bis, Brazil AMX, and more. Event vehicles, squadron vehicles and premium vehicles all have this capability and it’s only a matter of time before the wallet warrior gets armed with ARH. If you have a problem with that, take it up with gaijin for selling top tier premiums in the first place.
(Technically speaking, we could even get a F-4S (late) with the Aim-9M and Aim-7M or or potentially Aim-7P at some point lmaooo (although inability to provide datalink updates to the 7P with its radar if it ever went un-upgraded throughout its service life))
There is nothing to prove? They don’t have 9L in game because gaijin chose to not give them 9L. It’s extremely public information that these jets used 9Ls. The F-4E used AIM-9Ms even.