Man if you think the F-4S RWR is bad I can’t wait until you see the F1C-200 lmao.
It can carry 4 pretty good radar missiles and has agile eagle if you think F-4S vs R-27ER is Hydrogen bomb vs Caughing baby and it needs to go down to 11.3 I can’t wait until you see F-4S vs F-1. AKA Death Star vs Unborn Child ;)
So AirSim should eat dogshit and i gotta play something else?
Unfortunetly in top tier AirSim, you don’t dogfight that much and instead you do some BVR. Taking a gunpod doesn’t benefit you %99 of the time.
Anyway, F4S can’t do nothing against F15
so true, uptier the F-15A to 13.3 and raise the max BR cap to 14.0
Wait, your complaining about the F4 Phantoms performance in SIM???
The plane with an incredible loadout for both A2A and A2G.
Maybe try getting good at the game?
Yeah bro try to get near some convoys or hostile MiG-29.
You don’t even play simulator. You know nothing.
Of course the F-4S suffers in matches with Mig29 …
And if you bring 11.3 planes to the match the 12.0 days, they’ll suffer against AIM-7F
At 11.7 Mirage F1, japanese F-5E and Kfir C7 are better than Mig23 now. Maybe even F-104S ASA.
For every country there is a BR where it doesn’t have good planes, it’s the way of gaijin to force player to research several countries.
So, SPO10 can now detect Doppler pulses from F4S?
Personally I only play simulators lately and there you are talking nonsense, the F-4(J or S) is probably one of the best planes at its Br, the mig-23s are really easy to face and the rare Mig-29s are either completely useless (recently I have the impression that the Mig-29 players have become very bad) or know how to play but the quantity of missiles of the F-4 is enough to keep them in check.
For me, if there is one plane that suffers from the latest updates and changes to the BR, it is the Mig-23, not the F-4.
Wrong, Mirage F1 be upon ye
Yes, just like in RB.
I would really like you to face a MiG-29 in a Phantom.
MiG-23s can only face Navy Phantoms in 1 bracket what are you talking about.
It’s really not that hard, you just have to stay low and not get too close (it takes some practice for sure but it’s not impossible). The Mig-29 only has 2 radar missiles, once it’s fired it’s quickly vulnerable. Plus it only has 60 countermeasures, it quickly runs out.
You said that the Mig-23 was the best plane in the game in simulator with the latest Br changes, it’s just wrong. When it’s in the F-4S/J bracket it gets demolished and even at its own Br it can’t do anything, its radar is crap and its only decent missiles are the R-60M
Why are you flying an 12.0 jet in 12.3+ rotations? You CAN chose when to fly a certain BR, so you can easily avoid those rotations (exception is 12.3, which only gets matches with 12.7).
All I hear is: Skill issue.
I’m not surprised that the F-4S is unplayable on that BR. 4 obsolete IR missiles and 4 AIM-7s that are easy to defeat by notching. I crush them almost all the time with the MiG-23MLD, which has significantly better flight characteristics and more effective missile armament (2x R-24T + 4x R-60M).
Theres only 1 bracket to play Navy Phantoms and during that time nobody wants to play that BR because of the Phantom spam. At least make it 11.7 in sim so in only 1 bracket it will face 4th gens.
Ok then, take your F-4J and try to fight against some MiG-29s. Or maybe Japanese F-16s or F-15s.
MiG-23ML/MLDs R-24 is faster at close ranges. And you can’t use AIM-7s range advantage because once you fire they will immediately notch, you always get kills in close range. Also R-24R has IOG, making it better against notching.
As someone that got gifted the F4S and bought the MIG23ML to grind top tier cuz I’m lazy to go through every low tier jet cuz I can’t stand them, I don’t mind the F4S, it’s not a bad jet at all. When I first got it, I hated it and played like garbage in it and was so negative on it, it was probably .25K/D and I didn’t care to pick it up again but I did and have slowly climbed it to a near 1.0K/D. But the Mig23ML, that was a beast until the last update and now it’s garbage and so bad I don’t even touch it anymore. But I have the RU side finished to my liking anyways. If either of these jets were your first jets, you’re bound to hate them no matter what but as you learn other jets they really don’t seem so bad. Especially after learning what to look for with RU’s bad radar and US’s good missiles, you can start to pull together a decent skill gap in most jets VS what you fight against. Which is all time consuming but learn as you go. Do I think the F14’s should go up in BR because of the 54s. Yes because they are overpowered when half the team is just spamming them in a 12.0BR lobby. Doesn’t matter if they are easy to dodge or not because they are, but add that on top of the cheaters that radar lock through mountains and rock pillars, it’s annoying enough to say they need to be 13.3+ or the F4S should be dropped down to 11.3. Either way, it’s a viable jet to get a handful of kills every game unless yours in a 13.0 game getting ARH spammed by AV8Bs and F14s, but that’s a topic that’s been battered so much it’s useless to bring up just like the same nations on both sides shouldn’t be a thing but it is because everyone favors one country over all others in top tier of anything.
Done it multiple times. It is hard but not impossible. The F-16 and F-15 are really harder to fight. URSS radar are quite bad in game so if you learn how to play against them it is a easy win
For the Mig-23 the R-24 are useless. The radar is so bad that it can’t lock anything after 1 chaff if you are higher. + The last flight model change made it incapable of dogfighting (I have win every dogfight against Mig-23 with my Tornado Gr1 recently)