so basically personal bias and copium, got it.
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If you were waiting a lecture of technical data… Bro I can see the difference between a game and reality. is funny how you give details as in War Thunder that is a wierd arcade game with touches of realism takes seriously, like anything in-game is comparable in how planes, radars, tanks, ships, ordnance work in real life.
And if you cannot see it by yourself while playing the game I do not need to waste time in make you see which radar is better.
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yep, tremendous amounts of copium.
i was waiting for something other than “my own vibes tell me so”
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Yeah AIM-7F missiles are generally pretty bugged, failing to enter TRK when they should. I have a bug report on it. It’s not the plane or radar, it’s the missile. The issue is that they can be terribly potent when they work, so it’s hard to properly balance. Rather than a BR change I’d much rather have sparrows more reliable.
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Saw it, I think you don’t need to.
It can prove that AIM-7 are buggy, but it doesn’t mean that it is worthless.
AFAIK, AIM-7F in WT shares almost the same specs as AIM-7M does.
:/
Predicting counterclaim: Radar difference between 7M users (F-15A and others) and 7F user (F-4J/S, F-14A) makes a difference?
You don’t think the RWR difference between planes they meet in the downtier?
If your AIM-7F acted exactly the same as AIM-7M of F/A-18A or F-15A does, you would never be able to stay 12.0BR at the beginning.
If F-4J/S get buffs down to 11.7 as you want
11.7-11.3 = 0.4
not 0.3.
Basic Math.
1- F-4E has AIM-7E-2 while F-4EJ has AIM-7E
2- F-4E has infinitely better RWR than F-4EJ’s japanese domestic RWR
3- F-4E can access the napalm bomb, which gives advantage to base bombing, while F-4EJ cannot.
Even wilder take than send F-4J to 11.7
Partially wrong, I like Phantom outside of WT bc they had a key role in RAF/FAA.
But I hate Phantom inside WT.
My first experience with Phantom by F-4J(UK) was awful enough to ruin it.
Blatant lie.
There are 13 12.0BR jets exist.
1- Mirage F1C trio has an incredibly better IR missile, but has dreadful SARH paired with worse radar than F-4J/S
2- Kfir C.7, which can’t carry SARH.
3- JA37D Viggen and British Phantom Trio, which are forced to use Skyflash (AIM-7E-2 Equivalent)
4- F-104S.ASA, poor pencil bastard. You explained how bad it is, so I will skip it.
5- Tornado F.3 duo. superior jet than F-4J/S.
There are many 12.0, and F-4J/S are just worse than only Tornado F.3/ADV.
Yeah, seems your B2 Cert is worth nothing.
I didn’t say that F-4J does not need the radar for Christ’s sake.
Congrat to your failed nitpicking attempt.
What I meant on [you don’t need to] is
You don’t need F-4J/S’s radar (X)
You don’t need to film it. (O)
Wrong, I am putting AIM-7F of F-4J as one of the strongest feature in F-4J
so it seems it is not proper to compare MiG-29 with F-4J.
Great, glad that I bored you.
Maybe because you lack reading capability.
I say again.
TLDR:
1- Yes, F-4J has some problems currently
2- No, it isn’t F-4J itself’s problem, but more of the compression created by F/A-18A and other 4th gens.
3- So, there is no goddamn need to buff it down shamelessly. Send Hornets higher.
I think this sums it up pretty well.
huh? f4e is probably the most solid phantom in the game for its br. at least from the ones i have.
yeah, they shouldnt balance around a bug and just fix it instead
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F-4EJ is 11.0 for good reason, it’s got F-4C wings, AIM-7E (not E-2) and less ground attack options. F-4E with the agile eagle wings, upgraded sparrows and napalm is a decent amount better. In a head to head, the F-4E can very easily dominate the F-4EJ.
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You forgot downgraded RWR. And in case of EJ specifically it is extremely important because it can’t detect J band. Which means that every single R-24 carrier can nuke poor EJ without it even knowing.
Nope, just bore me enough of boring F-4 Phantom agenda, keeping the ideal of F-4J has nothing to be changed, not moving it to just -0.3 BR where I doubtedly would put downtier in a very bad position, in that case let’s move up MiG-23 MLD/ML to 12.0 is a stronger plane than any Phantom in-game. Or keeping F-4J at 12.0 but giving it access to AIM-9Ls and why not? let’s remove Magic 2 of Mirage F1s 'cause it has IRCCM at 12.0… crazy
Well, that is my last post I got enough of you arrogance y tu auto-flagelamiento.
I have a fight with SU-33 with my F-4J without all-aspect missiles and buggy SARHs
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Maybe because you lack reading capability.
If you were able to read theories, it wouldn’t have bored you. Because arguing is funny enough.
Crushing flaws… feels so shine and bright
Nah, 10.7BR jets like Jaguar GR.1A, or Mirage IIIE will be doomed.
Because it should’t.
Blunder.
Oh, how about removing AIM-7F because Mirage F1C doesn’t have the F-4J level of radar or SARH at 12.0 then?
You didn’t listen to what I told you at all.
What we need to do is send those higher
Not sending F-4J lower.
For Christ’s sake.
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Are you implying that US engineers deliberately sabotaged Japanese airforce? Or USSR spies sabotaged US engineers?
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is it just me or is the F-4E’s better than the F-4J’s
I haven’t played the USN variant of F-4J yet, so I can’t tell for sure.
but I kinda liked F-4E(Kurnass)'s RWR more than either F-4J(UK) or F-14A IRIAF’s one.
So F-4E’s RWR would be better than F-4J.
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Probably a combo of compression and BR magnets.
12.0+ is heavily compressed and 12.0s face way stronger aircraft than it should. The commonality of airframes like the 3x premium F-18s, Mirage F1C-200, and SQVs like the SU-33. Mean it often faces uptiers. its most common for 11.7+s to be dragged up to 12.7.
Being 11.3. The F-4E avoids a lot of said uptiers, and at most, might face 11.7s. But probably spends a lot of time facing downtiers, pulled towrads the 10.7 aircraft like the F-5C, J-7D and premium Mig-21s.
The result is where the F-4J faces uptiers, the F-4E faces downtiers