Ngl I thought meteor was a Britain led project which is why I didn’t think France having a hissy fit would matter
It is, but it also engages france, Germany, and Sweden from memory. It’s bit like involving American-made components and they can object things with ITAR, actually any partner in almost every joint projects can do the same, it’s just not talked about as much if it’s not USA that does it.
“fine” is a bit of a weird way to say busted, the only reason f2a isnt dominating hard is because how honestly bad most players are. its INCREDIBLY strong arguable the strongest 13.0
Dose the AAM-4 in game have it’s directional warhead?
This ignores that the F-2 is also has a far better flight model and radar., while it would also have IRCCM missiles.
Warthunder’s warhead modeling is somewhat limited for missiles, so the kind of directional warhead it uses isn’t supported yet (fixed directional warheads are possible, but not ones that aim towards the enemy).
It could always just be approximated by increasing certain paramters so that way the whole area is of the ideal efficacy, which would work well enough for simple use cases and is what i wpuld personally do. But more complex modeling is probably fine with not bring in yet. Getting stuff like continuous exapnding rods into game first would be a higher priority.
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Ok, thanks for the explanation, that makes sense, there are very few situations (if any) where simply increasing it’s overall blast would make a practical difference compared to directional. and it would be less prone to bugs. It’s not like the game has the kind of real world limitations where you can only fit so much warhead on the missile so you need to optimize it.
I just feel like the F-2A needs a little extra zing too it, it would have been amazing around the time the ARH F-15s came out, but with the EFs/ Rafs already out when it released it feels a little tepid IMO.
Splashing multi-pathing targets would be the main scenerio i could think of, particularly cause the AAM-4 should have a relatively small amount of fragmentation pellets (600 versus the current 2000). In such scenerios with it fuzing near the ground, targets flying above would be receiveing like 3-4 the fragmentation they should be.
Imo just the rest of the AAM-4 rework that’s needed would be enough, especially if they threw an F-2 FM buff on top, although i suppose theres no chance of that till i decide to touch some bug reports again…
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Nope. The current top-tier meta is “be fast and have as many missiles as possible” The F-2 doesn’t meet either of these ability. This is the reason why its not a good plane in toptier. You are not fast, you dont have more missiles than 4 and you dont have HMD. So it should be balanced with better missle compensating the less missles.
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Zanna is talking about the 13.0 not the top tier one. I wouldn’t say its the strongest 13.0, but it is still a decently good one. Top speed at 13.0 doesnt matter as much, and as shown by the F-15J being the best 13.0 for most the time 13.0 has existed, its clearly not that lacking a loadout.
The premium one is good, but the br system not exist so you always play 13.7-14.0. This is a thing what kill the premium f2.
Most of the 13.7 you can deal with, the F-15E/Is are the only real problem, they should have gone to 14.3 and the EF/Raf/ SU30 to 14.7 (Actually Raf should have gone 15.0, EF and SU30 14.7, and F-15E/I to 14.3 but different topic).
EDIT and the new 13.3 F-16s… I get they lack the IRCCM missiles but F-16 with 6 AIM-120s at 13.3 is a bit much…
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IRCCM has not been removed.
And the RWR is functioning.
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There was also an update at the time, which could’ve impacted everyone; not just your own aircraft.
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Yes, we are moving there now, as @AlvisWisla has suggested I am removing my side of the topic, however the forums only lets me remove so many posts per 30 seconds or so.
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Not a problem, I appreciate you moving to pm’s thanks.
If you need help with removing comments in the future then you can send me a pm with the links. Not really sure why there’s a 30 second window for deletion.
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all they have todo is put the sparrow motor inside the AAM4 and call it good. it will beat the C-5 in time to target from 60km away. Thats what it has IRL anyways right? it would be by far the best BVR missile ingame with the C-5 a close second if it is ever modeled properly
any reason why it can’t get AIM-120s to fix 4 ARH issue?
When will these Changes Go live ?
No idea, they’re from accepted bug reports i’ve made, with no word from gaijin on implementation.
No
Because it never got them irl and likely wouldn’t be compatable due to them needing specific electronics to fire. Funnily though, the MICA would technically be more likely to be possible to be mounted, as the LAMS-6 pylons are derivatives of frazer-nasch CRLs, which are MICA compatable. And unlike the amraam the mica can be fired (in certain modes) with basically zero integration. Like it would be super anachronistic cause i’m sure japan never would’ve even considered it, but by the standards of the game, it would be what would be most likely. Which shows just how much its not getting aim-120s lmao, cause even MICAs would be a very silly decision even i wouldn’t support.
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