F-16 Fighting Falcon: History, Performance & Discussion

IIRC there are differences on EW suites between USAF PoBIT and foreign 16Vs.
USAF uses AN/ALQ-257 while foreign ones use AN/ALQ-254.

Which one is better?

EW is highly classified

in all its aspects, there is barely any technical details known about the EW stuff that 3rd gens used

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Ok

Wonder which is more classified:

F-22 flight manual or current EW suites.

Can someone tell me if this guy is right or wrong about F-16?

Go check for yourself clean F-16A with about 75% internal fuel.

And the AOA limit of the F-16 is 25 degrees AOA exceeding that should be impossible.

At 25 degrees AOA the F-16 actually generates more G than this chart shows meaning the F-16 generates too much lift as is.

Correct me if i am wrong but F-16A ingame is F-16 block 10 and F-16ADF is F-16 block 15 which is heavier F-16A with same engine. The graph you posted is about F-16 block 15. So should i check that with ADF or with A?

well part of the F-22 manual was publicly released

(not a f-22 flight manual, but rather a pilot training manual from the looks of it)

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https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a3/publication/afman11-2f-22av1/afman11-2f-22av1.pdf

ADF

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was used for reports before so its fine to post

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It’s hilarious that I can scissor with it at 40+ degrees AOA with my hotas.

It shouldn’t be impossible, but only instantaneous excursions beyond it should be possible. Assuming that stall conditions aren’t the cause.

Also as implementing the below Limiter (only the Pitch channel, Roll and Yaw models would also need to be implemented, too) isn’t possible in game, they have done the best they can to try, and besides its not like any other aircraft are held to such an extent to what is covered in their manuals either.;

As there are simply too many inputs(and self-referential ones at that), and some are of types WT doesn’t model at all and further making it work with the instructor to make sense of how to perform interpreted commands requires a lot of dev time to resolve, for a handful of aircraft wasn’t seen as useful.

you mean idk basically every nato aircraft that came after the F-16?

  • F-16
  • F-18
  • Rafale
  • Gripen
  • EF
  • F-22
  • F-35
  • F-2

and then also russian and chinese ones

  • Su-30SM
  • J-10
  • J-20
  • J-35
  • Su-35
  • Su-57

and probably many more that i forgot

And you have exacting AoA data for how many? Let alone a block diagram for each channel.

Each channel would need a bespoke tuning, (as well as stores configurations if we’re going this far).

All I’m saying is that this isn’t a simple process.

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Do any f-16s other than the aesa ones get nctr?

they very likely do IRL but not in game

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APG-68(v) can do

Look at that, PIDS pylons on a US F-16… Weird…

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https://www.instagram.com/p/DUBa2y-EVCJ/?igsh=bnl4cnJhYzJyMmFk

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Damn no maws? Thou the extra cms is nice

Because it’s the earlier PIDSU adapter, not PIDS+

The ANG has a contract out for the PIDS+, so it would lose a CM magazine but gain a IR/UV MAWS

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