Ohk. thanks for the info. If i ever have question on F-14 i now know who to ask
Imo the performance discrepancy that was reported in the GeneralLee report was not as tiny as the devs addressed, it could have easily seen a fix like they did for the Flankers, would have been more fair as well.
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If the report is fixed would it bleed less speed while turning?
Probably, since the report target was to also buff the sustained turn, giving it less bleed in turns would have helped for that.
Gad to know that. Hope it gets fixed soon
Yeah F-15 underperforms a bit not crazy but a noticeable amount.
However the F-16 is frankly made up gibberish and it over performs in basically every-way.
F-16 and stall fight shouldn’t even exist in the same sentence yet there are people who can stall fight flanker in the F-16 it’s insane.
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F-16 is overbuffed to hell thats why
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Gaijin ate too much fighter mafia propaganda
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Far too much
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Any proof of this?
It’s performance is not much out of whack when compared to other planes.
The issue with the report is that the Ny values in the game are not take in correct reference so plugging them into turn rate equation gives erroneous results and will give erroneous results at higher angles of attack.
This is also why when I tested Mirage 2000 and MiG-29 turn performance numbers in the past that there is a huge discrepancy at low speed.
You can see it in action here.
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to be fair a lot of american rank 8 planes underperform in some aspects F15Cs with there FM and F14s with no AOA switch its just wacky right now i wish we could just get everything modeled accurately
If you’re playing the C, its performance at higher speeds is pretty close, issue is low speed turning. Gaijin has said that the sustained turn at around mach 0.3 is too low, but it’s “not critical” so they aren’t going to change it.
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So it is supposed to lose most of its speed when truning to notch at around mach 1.3?
I don’t really count this as losing “most of its speed”
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It’s actually quite good retention
Maybe compared to the grippen that can fly sideways if it takes slight damage. Never have I seen a f16 pull the shit it does in game in real life, not even remotely close
Well maybe after playing F-16 so much i must have felt that way. Also i have another is F-15 supposed to accelerate slowr than F-16? I feel like F-16 reaches Mach 1.6 faster than F-15c (maybe duebto my bias towards F-16C)
Beside how much it pulls is everything else still close to being accurate?
The F-15A is performing similarly in energy retention to F-16A block15, it has roughly the same sustained turn rate as the F-16A block10, but a worse bleed rate
The F-15C is a tad worse than the A, the F-15J sits in between those. The F-15E has similar high speed energy retention to the F-15A because of the extra thrust, but for tight maneuvers, the extra weight is quite apparent.
The 13.0 F-15A is a much better jet than the 13.0 F-16A, far better radar, similar FM, far better loadout with access to SARHs, double the gun ammo and many more countermeasures.
The 13.7 F-15C is slightly better than the F-16C or any other 13.7 F-16 variant because of the larger loadout.
Arguably, the only positive thing about the F-16 over the F-15 is that it is a smaller target and is more responsive to inputs.