F-15E going into flat spin

When i am playing on F-15E with AOA button on at low speeds i noticed it always (2 times at least) going into flat spins, just wondering is it normal?

you are stalling the plane at low speed

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yes it is, if you pull aoa at slow speeds the airflow will detach from your wings resulting in a flat spin

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flat spin, not stalling out, because you can fix from stall but it’s nearly impossible from flat spin

flatspins are a direct result of a stall…

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a flat spin is the result of a stall

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Spins occur when one wing drops earlier than the other and excarbarate if not compensated. Hitting critical AoA almost always leads to one wing dropping before the other (Accelerated Stall.)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBHNgI1O40XgdfkQUU_01br17FLJVbokg

Watch this playlist.

Also this playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnyigzFtHeNqmQMVhq1Shl972CPX4O-0B

Second playlist is for propeller/piston aircraft but outside of left-turning tendencies same applies to jets.

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thanks :)

Bro figured out that losing lift on a heavy ass plane is not good for flying

i mean it never happened when i was on JAS 39 Gripen

no need to be toxic jeez

Much much much different, it’s a lot lighter and the canards give it more lift

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in WT that is

gaijin also doesnt know how to make a flight model with canards, so it is super forgiving in game

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*delta canards

or unstable airframes in general

they are even more cracked in game

but anything with canards is pretty scuffed

well there is one plane that isnt
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(i mean the FM is still scuffed but in a different way, which applies to all flankers)

yeah happends BUT not gonna lie,fun to trick shot people with it you managed to get damaged enough to spin around

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To be frank, Mouse Aim and Realistic/Simplified controls in general make flying super forgiving.

The Instructor, whether as Mouse Aim or as “Autotrim” removes a LOT of little nuance that you’d need to deal with in air sim mode or DCS/Il2:GB.

It even removes the propeller’s effects on flight. You can test it yourself: Put your plane into a coordinated left-hand turn with 0% throttle and let speed drop low enough for engine effects to become significant.

firewall the throttle as fast as you can.

  1. With Autotrim/Instructor: The Turn & Slip Indicator does not move AT ALL
  2. Without autotrim: it yanks off to the side violently. In a high-AoA scenario, this can and will kill you in something like the Bf109G14 or K4. One moment you’re turning, easing throttle to not overshoot. You then need more energy so you slam it forward and boom you’re spinning! This doesn’t happen with instructor/autotrim

Edit:

Here, timestamped demo of how autotrim/instructor completely ignores certain aspects of physics for flight. Watch this instrument:

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Full-Realistic: The ball must YANK to the left when I apply throttle.

Autotrim: Nope
No autotrim: yes.

peak plane behavior

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