This is more ammo for this GE to get everything it needs, btw.
Eurofighter is technically capable of doing 14x BVRAAM (AIM-120B/C-5 and Meteor), but it’s pretty much never done operationally (cause missiles expensive, yo). In War Thunder it’s just more a thing to keep it “balanced” at 6 (now 8 apparently).
(If I’m not reading it wrong, as long as aircraft can technically carry something without it ever being used operationally, it can be added? Cause Malaysian Su-30 over there with Kh-38 is funny business)
it could be a possibility for the Typhoon after extensive modification and upgrades. but probably not possible. and a render can still be horribly inaccurate. it actually looks like they are using Brimstone triple launchers with only 2 missiles on them in that render lol
An important thing that I think a lot of people are missing is the precedent is absolutely set for the F-15CGE to get MRML racks.
Lacking AAM Count – The F-15CGE only has 8x AAMs in total, meanwhile BOTH the AESA and non-AESA Eurofighters have that amount of just Fox-3s (8), with 10x AAMs total. The same goes for the J-10C. And the Su-30SM has 12x Fox-3s, 14x AAMs total. The only air frame at 14.3 that has the same amount of AAMs is the Rafale, which blows top tier in general out of the water with the MICA.
Lacking Flight Performance – The F-15CGE does have a decent FM, but it’s nowhere near on par with the Eurofighters, Rafale, and J-10C. The F-15CGE is more in line with the Su-30SM, which again has way more missiles. Treating the F-15CGE like the Su-30SM and giving it more AAMs could very much bring it back to par with other 14.3s.
Theoretical Functionality – MRML racks were mounted and proven to work on the F-15EX. The bug report on this details how the F-15CGE and F-15EX share the same mission computer (ADCP-II). And since MRML racks are actively used on the F-15EX, it is absolutely within the realm of possibility for the F-15CGE to receive a software update that would allow it to use MRML racks. Not to mention they were literally mounted.
Similar Historical Precedent – The Su-27SM received its dual-rack R-77s to improve its performance against the F-15C MSIP-II despite not being proven for it. The F-15CGE should get the same treatment to improve its performance against the current vehicles at 14.3.
ALL of this points towards the fact that the F-15CGE should get MRML racks. It’s quite simply a matter of consistency. Previous historical liberties have been made for balance (and it wouldn’t be a huge leap in this case), the balance precedent is set, and the theoretical functionality is enough for WT’s standards.
also important to note is that Aim 120s are the worst ARH missiles at top tier, with poor close range performance and comparable long range performance to others
Yapping alert. TLDR: It's over boys, they're not adding anything else to the GE trash due to sweats.
First up, Startshark released new stats, showing interesting trends about November. One of which is the F-15C GE performance on its first half month of performance.
Some disingenuous individuals may say: “But Pyro, that’s some good numbers, the plane’s good.” And they might have a point, but first, check out the F/A-18C Late’s release performance back in March.
That’s triple the amount of games on release for a tenth of a difference in Kills per Death. It’s obvious there was more people playing the F/A-18C Late (obviously due to sheer novelty factor back in the day), including less skilled players than on the F-15C Golden Eagle that, apparently, has found a niche of skilled players, albeit lots of people underperform in it as far as the data I have gathered throughout this last three weeks.
A feasible counterargument may be: “B-but the Golden Eagle had less days to be played, that’s why it had less games played, right?”
Plain wrong. The Hornet was released with Hornet’s sting on March 18th, 2025., while the Golden Eagle was released on November 11th, 2025, having effectively more days during its respective month to be played by the playerbase.
In conclusion, the plane is cooked by stat farming (overepresenting good performance) and sweats. Its time to wait for the AESA F-15E or the F-15EX.
The F-15C Golden Eagle is officially done.
Dunno what you are trying to prove here, that the GE is as good as the very meh F/A-18C late?
The latter is well known to be quite subpar, if the GE is preforming as well as it, then that would be verifiable proof that the GE needs help.
Oh who am I kidding, a US vehicle underperforming has never given gaijin a reason to do anything but put a minor Band-Aid on the issue like with the M1s.
I’m proving that the plane is meeting Gaijin’s numbers to not give anything else to it. The vehicle is getting a frag per death, which is far better than you could ask for the F/A-18C late for example while being 0.3+.
And then they will obviously ignore the fact the plane is being played by a glaring minority of players composed of both good players and basically clueless ones who believed the plane was good because it’s new.
Given the logic I'm applying, the Su-30 should be having at the very least 0.10+ KpD this very november if it had at least a third less played games by inexperienced players.
I have a feeling that’s simply why Gaijin is so apprehensive about giving the F-15CGE its MRML racks. But they have not outright denied it (yet).
We will see in the coming dev updates whether the BRs will be increased and the EFT(A), J-10C, and Rafales get moved up to 14.7.
But even then, imo, the F-15CGE will still be subpar compared to the Su-30SM and EFT(M). The EFT(M) will have both a significantly better FM and more missiles, and the Su-30SM will have significantly more missiles.
Oh, please. Have no doubt that all the statistics are effectively the reason.
The most disgusting part is that with all this statistical sham, they’re not even going to fix the F-15C flight model, which would affect the F-15C MSIP II as well.
then there’s 67% on the rafale, but for some reason the devs just kinda leave it like that (above 60% all year btw), to put that in presetive the aim120 was good for like 3 weeks before it was insta nerfed into the ground cause other nations complained.
Wrong. Gaijin tends to balance vehicles around KpD and resources gathered (SL+RP), not necessarily about winrates since air top tier has mixed battles. It’s not crazy to think they have a standardized KPI that tells them every BR change cycle which vehicles overperform on SL+RP per game and KpDs.
It’s the reason why most of the ground French stuff or the Charioteer are relatively overtiered, and some other vehicles like the M24 or the Pz.IV F2 are criminally undertiered.
