mostly R27ER and ET. i usually loft my shots a bit and i didnt see any flares for the failed ET shots
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Ets generally have a little less range than what the radar says, like even if they’re in the no escape zone they’re often still able to accidentally out run it if it’s more than 7km, 6 or less km rear aspect even at sea level is usually a kill if no flares. Ers, they probably just multipathed or notched it.
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I never said anything about which stock grind is better
ET will bite on missile launches, single stray flare, or other planes crossing path with hotter engine etc. they are no good for throwing into a furball usually, better used at guys alone/isolated running back to airfield etc. Also good to throw after a r77 launch a couple seconds after sometimes people wont flare if they get a launch warning from the r77 and will get slammed by it, usually planes with lower cm count. Or you can use them within like 3km if they aren’t preflaring and usually it will get close enough for the fov to clamp down enough to ignore flares.
ER is the hardest missile to MP besides pheonix and farkour as long as you fire it from top down aspect since it has so much explosive filler.
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This is generally true, even worse if the jet has maw and literally takes away the element of surprise.
I also gotta point out tho that I had had many scenarios where they straight up ignore flares even at longer distances, most of these cases I’m talking about were against F15’s flying high and alone, I guess they are such a big of a heat signature that even the ET seeker doesn’t struggle against them.
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Might be because if they are up high they are going so fast the flares dont have time to heat up before they are out of the seeker fov. I guess the seperation would be greater. Esp if you are below them it same deal as side aspect shot essentially.
So?
I said stock grind is rough for both planes, which is true
I never said “this stock grind is better than the other one”.
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didn’t know there was much of a battlefield, general consensus being the 27/33 is carried by its missile kit and which is better between 30SM/15E+C depends on which nation main you ask
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13.0 ones are for sure, 34 and 30sm have the radars to back them up the 27sm not so much. TWS+ was a travesty, but for the 13.0 flankers the non functional tws for launches isnt a huge deal. I guess for 14.0 it comes down to the f15E flight performance vs the r77-1 better range, not sure which edges out the other.
Flankers are probably more fun as it gets ET and more missiles, ER kinda pointless when you have r77-1 though, maybe some still use it since even though the performance increase is negated the ability to swap targets is interesting? Def bring them on r77 frames.
1v1 im not sure which better, but 16v16 more missiles is certainly appreciated, more CM is too.
It doesn’t much cause the reduced weight is compared to J11A which is like half a ton heavier anyway.
Cause the weight is compared to wrong aircrafts.
Yeah, R27Rs just suck crazy. Even then 7Ms are still useless vs ARHs.
I mean rear aspect wise I can consistently kill at at least 8-10km, beyond that they have to be slightly side on.
Should be R-77-1 cause u do get more of them and if u get the chance to fire they are just better than AMRAAMs even though u are slower.
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J11B uses composite materials thats why
love to see J15
J15 is SU-33 but reduced weight its awesome
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my later f15 do you mean f15c or f15ex? cause f15ex is not even a competition, it can carry 20 aim120ds and it has a monster aesa radar + ofc the giga classified ECW suite we have no idea about.
su35s aint doing jack,
if ingame is the concern? yeah 100% su30sm is just better.
j16 for me, its essentiall a su30sm2 but better
By 100 kg lol. I said to a less extent or sth along those lines.
Different in a lot of aspects, like I mean it’s canard-less but looks better than the ones with camo, I like pure one coloured flankers better.
I mean f-15ex is worse than su-35s, for wt purposes. lol 20 missiles what are you talking about, it gets 12, 2 less than su-35. I think an f-15c got a mockup with those insane quadracks and the other insane stuff but it was just a mockup, think it’s called amber or something, @GeneralLee2000 would know better. R-77-1 and in the future r-77m will just be vastly superior to later aim 120s if gaijin sticks to how they’re modeled rn, with garbage fin aoa and a terrible guidance delay.
yeah i thought they introduced the “amber racks” concept in the f15ex, i was misinformed, r-77-1 is no way superior to aim120d irl its very much inferior its an equal to aim120c-5 and c-7, russian industry outright stated they plan to match and exceed aim120d with r-77m. “they’re modeled rn, with garbage fin aoa and a terrible guidance delay.”
guidance delay is an issue for both amraam and r77, it seems nonsensical for both, fin aoa is dubious. id argue aim120 and r77 are equally fucked right now.
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R-77-1 gets a normal guidance delay that actually makes sense, I calculated it to be around 0.35 ish seconds from booster activation from footage and it’s .3 seconds in the game. Compare that to the activation time of the aim 120 being .6 seconds, double the time and the pull being so much worse (especially in the case of the c-5) it’s just worse for the current meta. Haven’t don’t the same calculation for aim 120 because I can’t find a good piece of footage of it being launched then turning, unlike r-77.
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