Do you have the link for that one? Been trying to find it for a while
You’d have to crawl back through the Raytheon website’s news list on the wayback I’m pulling these numbers back from memory when I found this back around 2016.
I know I posted something about it as well on the old forums back when the F-15C thread was going as well it might have the wayback link on it.
The general gist of the release was that Raytheon was expecting to meet the FY2000 first delivery date as implementation and testing, which began post the termination of the initial AN/APG-63 run was ahead of schedule as aerial testing had begun two years after said termination.
The rest of the document spoke of how the testing was also being used for mapping tech for the AN/APG-63(v)1.
Wish the old forum was not just dead so I could Ctrl-F my profile and find it.
To be fair had the US not sabotaged FS-X the way they did we would’ve had the JF-210 in service with multiple AESA arrays in the mid 90s.
Though at this point we’ve been derailing an F-15 thread for some arbitrary comparison between two allied countries, and it’s probably best to focus on F-15 again.
The FS-X program was pretty much Japan exclusively benefitting from getting all the data they want on the F-16 series for completely free while general dynamics kept having the Japanese MOD try and make it an exclusively mainland Japanese product with minimal foreign royalties along with sharing none of the agreed upon tech from Japan, namely further microcontroller systems. Does omit a lot of the other bids and weirdness that occurred through this entire program like the Tornado-J. Could be it’s own entire thread just going through all the weird proposals that sprung up from all the engine testing and airframe mods that came from this debacle.
Gib Alaskan F-15C with AN/APG-63(v)2.
That F15C was also a prototype variant and not in service :> production of service vehicles for the AESA started in 2007. This is just lolman trying to split hair too attempt to be pedantically right instead of saying anything useful (he picked up this tidbit like 4 years ago now and won’t stop brining it up whenever the F-2 is mentioned despite it just not being… useful or relevant information). The F-22 was the first US jet in service with an AESA radar and second overall. The Aim120 went into service in 1991 but was test fired from “service” jets as early as 1986. This does not mean the first aim120 equipped service aircraft was made in 1986. Because this is not how words work.
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That’s not correct in the slightest. APG-63V2 went into active service with an entire squadron being equipped by 2000. That’s 18 aircraft minimum. It was withdrawn from service relatively shortly thereafter but only because those aircraft were then further upgrades with the V3
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yeah sorry I mixed up V3 and V2
v2 had 3 radar equipped vehicles in december 20th 2000
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Should do a quick google search before making such statements.
Warthogboy already answered the question of the matter.
They had 15 in service before that my guy, it flat out states, quote “The Boeing Company recently delivered to the U.S. Air Force the final three of 18 F-15C aircraft it refitted with Raytheon’s APG-63(v)2 Active Electronically Scanned Array” thats not the first 3 F-15Cs refitted, its the final 3 F-15Cs refitted.
Boeing Images - F-15C Eagle Delivery
Boeing even states on their own website that quote “The F-15Cs are the first combat aircraft in the world to have an operational AESA system.”
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Well, then read this. If you can properly understand the Japanese language and its sentences, you will know that your perception is wrong. If you still don’t change your opinion, then stay in your inner reality.
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From the oldest to the youngest radar
APG-63
APG-63/PSP
APG-70
APG-63V1
APG-63V2
APG-63V3
So when the F15C comes, it will get new engines. Is it true that those new engines have the same amount of power output as the F15A engines? Also, I believe that the F15C is mach 2.5 capable. Is this true? What changed (if the A and C had the same power output) so that the F15 was suddenly mach 2.5 capable?
Only about M2.4 in standard conditions.
アクティブ・フェーズドアレイ=AESA.
Active Phased Array is synonymous with AESA, For example, see the following paper:
PDF you uploaded indicates that the seeker has been upgraded to AESA starting from the AAM-4B missile.
AAM-4からの改良点
- アクティブフェーズドアレイアンテナ化による送信電力増大等
- 新方式の信号処理機能の追加
Improvements from AAM-4
- Increased transmission power through active phased array antenna
- Addition of new signal processing functions
Additionally, another PDF mentions:
試作では、誘導部の能力向上を図り、技術的課題であるクラッタ抑圧に優れた信号処理技術及び目標捕捉能力等に優れたアク ティブフェーズドアレイアンテナ技術を確 立した。
In the prototype, improvements in the guidance section were aimed at establishing signal processing technology and active phased array antenna technology that excel in clutter suppression and target acquisition capabilities.
Documents clearly state that the AAM-4B is equipped with AESA seeker, unlike the AAM-4.
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The new engines have a better power curve, basically look at it as an acceleration boost, but lose a slight bit of absolute top speed as a result. Could theoretically break 2.5 if you’re high enough and low enough on fuel
PW-220 are slightly less powerful than PW-100. But, the F-15Cs are more powerful because they were given digital engine control which led to better acceleration - DEEC.
The F-15 is only capable of mach 2.5 in the right conditions for a very limited time, it has no practical use.
The F-15’s top speed is about 2.3, with armament and tanks under the wings about M1.8.
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No. They have more thrust, specifically targeted at high alt - above mach 1. Considerable thrust takes place above M 1.6 25k ft
Acceleration was improved along with operational(and maximum) flight ceiling atop speed.
Clean at 65% fuel the ceiling is just below 59k ft between Mach 1.6 and Mach 2.2 with the 220s
The 100s don’t reach 58k and the closest it gets os at M1.8. While the 220 reaches M2.2 at 58k ft, the Pw100s need to be lower to get at this speed, lower 50s. The Pw100 to reach M2.35 it need to be below 43k ft and above 35k ft. It will struggle to hit maximum structural velocity, unlike the 220s which can actually rip anything above 25kftm and this one actually reaches 2.5, but above 45k due to structural limits.
An pw220 at 80% fuel, the thrust takes it up to M1.38 with limit at 1.4 at 10k ft.
The pw100 can just reach M1.3.
This is at 40k ft
You can look at the level flight charts, the top end was expanded in altitude and speed.
You can see that on the Pw100 you are able to see the flight limits on a standard day and a +10°C day. On the PW200s, you are only able to see the limit hot day limits, and the standard day does not even appear as it goes slightly beyond the structural limits
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ummm no It may have entered service in 1999 but the F-2 was the first aircraft to feature an AESA radar.
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It is said that the F-15C equipped with AN/APG-63(V)2 went into service in 2000. Also, in the literature and websites that I know of, it is stated that the F-2 is the world’s first fighter jet equipped with an AESA radar. I have never seen any documentation that it is an F-15C.