Incorrect, the first F-15C equipped with the AN/APG-63v2 entered service in 1999 at Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska, one year before the F-2 entered service in 2000, making the F-15C the first production fighter equipped with an AESA radar.
Correct, thank you for re-iterating my statement, the SSM-1B is not the Type 12 as I have already stated.
And this is a family of AAMs sharing the same naming conventions.
It flat out states that the AAM-4 is being tested with a prototype Ka-Band AESA seeker.
I have yet to see proof of such.
seeker emits more because it is an AESA seeker, imagine my shock that the AESA radar tested on the AAM-4 has superior emission power to the original AAM-4 seeker when used in a future variant, I dont see how this refutes my claim.
Seems a bit hair splitting but the F-2 had its first flight with AESA in 1995. Sure it’s not the first production unit (though it was later converted IIRC), but it’s still operational on the aircraft it was supposed to be mounted on.
First flight is not in service, the F-15C was in service with the US Air force with the AN/APG-63v2 in 1999, the F-2 only entered service in 2000, if we want to go by testing the AN/APG-63v2 was tested after the AN/APG-63 base model order ended in 1986, being put on a F-15 for testing for the first time in 1988.
So for first flight or actual in service date the AN/APG-63v2 is still ahead of the F-2.
You’d have to crawl back through the Raytheon website’s news list on the wayback I’m pulling these numbers back from memory when I found this back around 2016.
I know I posted something about it as well on the old forums back when the F-15C thread was going as well it might have the wayback link on it.
The general gist of the release was that Raytheon was expecting to meet the FY2000 first delivery date as implementation and testing, which began post the termination of the initial AN/APG-63 run was ahead of schedule as aerial testing had begun two years after said termination.
The rest of the document spoke of how the testing was also being used for mapping tech for the AN/APG-63(v)1.
Wish the old forum was not just dead so I could Ctrl-F my profile and find it.
Though at this point we’ve been derailing an F-15 thread for some arbitrary comparison between two allied countries, and it’s probably best to focus on F-15 again.
The FS-X program was pretty much Japan exclusively benefitting from getting all the data they want on the F-16 series for completely free while general dynamics kept having the Japanese MOD try and make it an exclusively mainland Japanese product with minimal foreign royalties along with sharing none of the agreed upon tech from Japan, namely further microcontroller systems. Does omit a lot of the other bids and weirdness that occurred through this entire program like the Tornado-J. Could be it’s own entire thread just going through all the weird proposals that sprung up from all the engine testing and airframe mods that came from this debacle.
That F15C was also a prototype variant and not in service :> production of service vehicles for the AESA started in 2007. This is just lolman trying to split hair too attempt to be pedantically right instead of saying anything useful (he picked up this tidbit like 4 years ago now and won’t stop brining it up whenever the F-2 is mentioned despite it just not being… useful or relevant information). The F-22 was the first US jet in service with an AESA radar and second overall. The Aim120 went into service in 1991 but was test fired from “service” jets as early as 1986. This does not mean the first aim120 equipped service aircraft was made in 1986. Because this is not how words work.
That’s not correct in the slightest. APG-63V2 went into active service with an entire squadron being equipped by 2000. That’s 18 aircraft minimum. It was withdrawn from service relatively shortly thereafter but only because those aircraft were then further upgrades with the V3
Should do a quick google search before making such statements.
Warthogboy already answered the question of the matter.
They had 15 in service before that my guy, it flat out states, quote “The Boeing Company recently delivered to the U.S. Air Force the final three of 18 F-15C aircraft it refitted with Raytheon’s APG-63(v)2 Active Electronically Scanned Array” thats not the first 3 F-15Cs refitted, its the final 3 F-15Cs refitted.
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Well, then read this. If you can properly understand the Japanese language and its sentences, you will know that your perception is wrong. If you still don’t change your opinion, then stay in your inner reality.
So when the F15C comes, it will get new engines. Is it true that those new engines have the same amount of power output as the F15A engines? Also, I believe that the F15C is mach 2.5 capable. Is this true? What changed (if the A and C had the same power output) so that the F15 was suddenly mach 2.5 capable?
