F-15 Eagle: History, Performance & Discussion

The consequence of 16v16 garbage mode.

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72%, fell down from 80 by playing like dumb R***** and pointlessly dying. Trying to use aim-7 is just pain… plane itself is really nice but i often die to enemy while trying to make 7M work. Might aswell dump aim7 and fly it with 4x9M only or keep 7Ms for late game.

It’s so fucking funny. No wonder they give artificial FM buffs to all top tier american aircraft. All they know to do is hold W and point-click, that’s what the handheld F5C taught them.

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7Ms have been made extremly unreliable. Which to be honest isn’t unrealistic but devs said they don’t model reliability…

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They did increase the time to require a track after launch. Still did not make a difference imo either.

The Aim7M is literally not modelled. Neither is the Aim54 flight performance, intertial guidance and fire control.

THEY SAID WHAT!? Bro…

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Yeah, the unreliability of the 7M IRL is its most accurate attribute in game. Short of a rocket motor failure, everything else that pilots reported seems to happen.

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The aim7M has an auto pilot to fly in the general direction of last known track.

Do pilots report the Aim7M’s warhead immediately detonating the moment target illumination ceases? That is pure GJ mechanics imo.

So I haven’t seen that in a pilot report. Figured that was just weird in game behavior. But the different variations of “going stupid” occur frighteningly often.

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devs said they don’t model reliability…

Lol Developers may not be able to model reliability or the technology that increases it in later variants…

But they are sure as hell are professionals at modelling a weapons systems unreliability, that’s for sure.

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Shell shattered

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All missiles except some do. Vikhrs explode when they run out of battery, not sure how true that is

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Well yeah, especially in Vietnam and of older generation aircraft which required a continuous wave illuminator to paint a target due to weak field strength and inability to produce a high pulse frequency rapid enough to guide.

The fighter aircraft of the 4th generation in game the F-16, F-15, J-8F & afaik the Gripen have the field strength and ability to produce the ideal frequency to guide a SARH. There is no excuse for them to demonstrate the same failure rate as the F4J of Vietnam.

It is preposterous idea that the Americans, the leader in the field of radiolocation applications and inventor of the weapon system type & first to put in operational service cannot increase the reliability over a span of 30+ years.

The Soviet Union, known for their poor radar innovation (leaked to the CIA 1979-1985 by Adolf Tolkachev) magically perfected it? No, not in the slightest.

Only in WT does the R24 and R27 perform this ridiculously accurate. “Balance” because many new players from all over the world flock to the US tech tree when they start the game, and they would never branch out to other nations if technical specifications were truly followed.

Developers may say they cannot model certain aspects of western radars/weapon systems etc. That may be true. I am not a developer. But it sure as hell is a mighty convenient coincidence huh?

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Even the later Sparrows were not the best reliability wise. Eagle drivers and Tomcat crews have either documented or anecdotal accounts of Sparrow failure. Shoot, the air battle of Samurra in '91 had like 3 of 5 Sparrows fail (that number is from memory, may be off by one), all fired by Eagles.

But reliability shouldn’t be modeled so why is the Sparrow so iffy in game? [Shrugs shoulders]

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Yes, the sparrow fails. However, none of the technology that was implemented to increase reliability in the variants we currently have are modelled.

Additionally, the failure rate of the Sparrow in War Thunder has little to nothing to do with the missile itself.

It is the developers intentional nerf to the aircraft’s radar that is the issue.

Radars that were second only to the F-22’s radar btw. However, in game a Mig-29 with a N019 with its terrible range and reliability (a modified Mig23 Sapfir) can guide an R27 at unbelievable range and accuracy… Its overtly overperforming. The Zhuk is a different story and is actually slightly underperforming imo, but I digress.

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Do you guys understand the Aim-120 will come to the game completely gutted and will likely be an Aim7M with the active homing of the poorly modelled aim54 fire control?

I will bet golden eagles on it.

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The real question is what aircraft will get it first

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100 percent. Even if the AMRAAM was completely accurately modeled, it will be a let down if its the A or B model. A lot of people have expectations based on the C-7, and that is a long way off.

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Probably the Italian Harrier, Viggen Mod D & F.3 Tornado. They may add the F4F ice as well just for the occasion. They will add the British and US capable harrier as well.

Gj likes to test the waters of advanced weapon systems on attackers and lesser performing fighters.

hopefully

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One of the devs did explain why sarh missiles explode after certain time passed when lock is lost in old forum. their reasoning was there were no possibility to re-acquire the target for none of the missiles (this was before R27 and AIM54) so instead of keep going straight until they plummet into earth they would explode so player could understand their missile is dead. as far as i know besides sparrow p there is no such datalink functionality in any of the sparrows. however super 530s actually have some sort of re acquisition mechanism built in. radar should try to re acquire the target automatically for couple seconds and then if it fails to lock on it enters into flood mode and hopes for the best (none of this implemented of course…)