F-15 Eagle: History, Performance & Discussion

It’s almost impressive how often they manage to break an already existing mechanic that they barely changed anything about.

Like how even?

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Well… Strange. Too sensitive radar. But it’s cool.

Demo version of F-15EX literally.

theres little on it, but there is no reason to assume it perfoms as poor as it does, gaijin didnt nerf it based on any sources, if those sources existed we would be “ah sh#t i guess we’re screwed”, the only reason the missile was nerfed was cause it had the longest range and still very good maneuvearability, which in an envirment where people were absolutely terrible made it extremely dominant, gaijin thought slightly fixing the range would counterbalance it but after people figures fox 3s out range became completely irrelevant.

aim120c5 is even more annoying imo as gaijin just assumed crap because of a 40mm difference in fin size, disregarding a decade of improvements in virtually everything else, so an artificially nerfed missile got further artificially nerfed again making it even less usefull, its pretty absurd how bad the aim120c5 is at turning, the aim120c is worse sub 20km in a straight line sure, but what people dont say generally is that if youre playing the game right(firing from notches) the missile is even less effective at those range as it takes 16 business days to get into intercept path.

when it comes to numbers the kind of capability we need in warthunder for a missile to be meta, is in real life essentially useless. like the only reason we have reputable numbers for the r77 is the collapse of the soviet union, whilst r-77-1 inherits that + the very unconventional rosoboronexport site which lists general perfomance data, which as i said is pretty much only done by russia afaik.

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i dont think its even that its super classfied, it is classified but its more likely that its just not much of a concern. irl they dont notch missile, they try to bleed them and/or jam them with ecm and they sure as hell dont do it from 10 kilometers away.

like the kind of combat we do in this game is likely comical to real life pilots.

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ps3 engine built for ww2 aircraft. the game is probably a lovecraftian mess of spaghetti code

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Gaijin can you repair it?

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Is this manual availible online?

because ive only managed to find a very incomplete version of the 1989 update

and a 1986 update that doesnt have charts for -220 engines despite mentioning them earlier in the manual

thats the very incomplete version ive mentioned I think ive seen it on a couple of sites but the 1989 one is missing ~90% or more of its pages

I guess you can roughly recreate thrust curves from the sustained turn charts but that is the only information on -220 engine it has (only a single sea level sustained turn chart)

I don’t have any other manuals besides from these. I guess we’ll have to wait for 2030 to get the rest :)

TO 1F-15A-1 - App B Perf Data F100-PW-220.zip (51.9 MB)
No cover sadly.

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thanks

i heard the PW-229 from F15E is backwards compatible with the Pw200 of F15C without modification to the intakes or anything is this true it would make the F15C GE a amazing top tier

idk if its true

because IIRC the CFTs would only fit airframes with the engines they were made for

well thats what i heard it would make the GE competitive i dont think they did it in service but its possible cause the Pw220 and 229 swap doesnt require a structure change ffrom what i heard maybe the CFT wouldnt fit but to be fair no one uses CFT

Nope. F-15E has modified engine bay and probably intakes.

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Theoretically saudi F-15C can have new engine bays as they were produced on 15E lines after USAF 15C production suspension, but this is rumors

I think HMD for both F14 and F15A should be added

and recently found this source https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA074603.pdf which directly references symbology for VTAS mounted in an F14

and seems to imply its use in F15s despite being from a few years before F15C production started

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yeah good luck gaijin would sooner go bankrupt then give any sort of competitive edge to any of the tech tree tomcats

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I found this not sure if it’s been seen already tho but you never know(talks about the testing hmd/dash)

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