imo you’re essentially just a worse eurofigher at the same br
Is there a version that gets 129 engines that isn’t the EX?
I guess on the C they would be great
i think the F-15SG
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Correct.
SG version does have GE-129C engine.
SA version also uses GE-129.
Eu gostaria muito de ver isso no jogo
Some interesting comments by IDS pilot training against SEs with apg70s regarding range
…and we had the entire um Holloman airspace for it. So from north to south we had 120 mi [223 km] of desert essentially that, mountains in the north, mountains in the south to train… And that was very that was breathtaking because when the eagles were fighting against us, they were all the way in the north when they were turning south. We were all the way in the south in the mountains at low level and they turned around swept one time and they had a complete radar picture of what’s going on. And that’s with we are talking uh the year 2000 so APG70 kind of thing and they didn’t even bring their their targeting pots. They left them at home. Um, and if if they had brought them, it it would even be more eyewatering because they can actually if if they get defensive, a coincidence. Then they go to the notch and they can track you with the targeting port through the notch. All kinds of weird things. It was just mind blowing. See what that jet can do, but also what those crews could do. They really had their stuff together.
…So that’s that’s very interesting then. So these guys are sweeping you from 100-120 miles [185 -223km] out. Are you So you’re you’re coming out of mountainous terrain. What is your tactic then to defeat them? How do you uh go against a four ship of F-15s with APG70s, really good ground cluster rejection?
-Well, the bad news is there just isn’t anything. No matter what you do, it just will not work. They because they got their first hits at 120 mi [223 km] and they they come in range at what, 40 miles [74 km] or with being red air with the the weapons they were given maybe 20 miles [37 km]. So they track down for 100 miles [184 km] and just wait to come in range and no matter what you do by the time you get to 20 miles [37 km] they will have full SA on you. There is nothing you can do. And we tried everything imaginable. We were we were flying um radar resolution cell close formation in medium altitude which is a hard thing to do in that airplane and then do uh the exploding water man of thing trying to create lots of blips for them to work. But that jet is so advanced and they have two two guys in the cockpit. This is a lose-lose proposition no matter what you do.
120 N.M for a tornado.
For the charts I have for the apg63.
APG-63s case study report
against a 2-3m^2 target at 2bar wide(120°) search pattern RWS.
From the Tornado’s F3 CTTO
average RCS of the aircraft is 9m^2 within 60° of the nose.
And some graphs
The red curve is the 50% pd for the first reference I gave, 73 NM for a 2m^2 target.
Blue curve is the value from the case study, 77 NM for a 2m^2 target
Black vertical line is the avg frontal tornado’s RCS, 9m^2
and green curve is the detection range for apg63s and apg70s in war thunder, 100km for a 3m^2 target, which is based on a soviet’s F15 report.
Horizontal line is WTs max render distance for radar contacts, 120km. To give a sense of scale
Seems reasonable, the cumulative pd adjusted for a 9m^2 target.
At 120 NM you would’ve detected 10% of incoming targets, and 50% of them by the time you are 106NM apart
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F-15A/J are missing NCTR, the Baz Meshupar has worse NCTR than it should: Community Bug Reporting System
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wtf, they denied it because the radar is missing something else it should have
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QXz6Gyt7TzIq
“It is intended that F-15A radar does not have TWS mode.”
how are they insane enough to use that to deny bug reports
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probably the way theyre justifying is by saying that it’s an earlier version of the radar.
For example, next update, su-30sm and su-30mkm have the same radar, but su-30mkm will get reduced target tracking and half the datalink channels as the su-30mkm got the early n011m while su-30sm got the later n011m
not saying its right, I just think its their explanation
Only way they can force players to remember the f15A exclusive RAM SRC mode while locked lol.
But yeah the words, “It is intended that F-15A radar does not have TWS mode” is an insane thing, if they approved the report or said passed as suggestion but that it was an intentional decision it would have been fine the f15 PD is already god tier for that BR.
But the fact they denied it because it was done for intentional (I’m assuming balance) reasons is dumb the sources were there its something that should exist that should at minimum get it approved to the 3 year minimum report purgatory for possible future reevaluations on the feature.
The devs have decided it will have an early version of the radar, even if not historical. Unless we get TWS, we will not get NCTR.
The hilarious thing is that the F-15A didn’t get the radar until 1994. So IRL it definitely would have had both. This just gaijin going lmao, we want it to be like this basically
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Can’t fix stupid…
NCTR is not dependent on TWS
But the same can be said for IFF in STT yet here we are
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Shouldn’t the f-15e technically get the agm-84?
It technically should
is this statshark being wrong or me misreading something?
because if not that seems to be showing both Vmax and VNE are too low
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can you show the bottom of the statshark graph, can’t really make a comparison if the x axis for speed is cut off
definitely seems like it then. lemme go try this in game though rq just to verify