Given this is the case too I just realized, this F-15C that we have must have the AN/APG-63(V)1 and not the AN/APG-63 PSP, as the first JHCMS installed on a F-15C occurred in 2005 and all the existing US F-15Cs were upgraded to AN/APG-63(V)1s by 2001.
Hmm thats a good point there
Or they’ll just butcher it like they did with the F-15A, which should have TWS with the APG-63 PSP upgrade that it literally got at the same time as the countermeasures, yet it doesn’t have that radar upgrade in-game.
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For me, gaijin not ready AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA radar 3 years because advanced & powerful radar and great BVR
Personal, I think F-15C MSIP II from USA tech tree showcase in devstream fitted with AN/APG-63(V)1 radar
But for F-15A, gaijin can change new radar to AN/APG-63 PSP radar ?
Its not a psp radar wither way. Its an underperforming pre-psp radar with missing radar modes and capabilities
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how do we know its a APG 63? and not APG 70 on the c model
Uh, radar on F-15A it’s AN/APG-63 (pre-PSP) radar.
But gaijn can’t change radar for USAF F-15A ?
Chronologically its a franken plane.
Artificially nerfed pre-psp apg 63
Flares (which only came on MSIP 1985 on C models as As were given to sent to the national guard)
and missile from early 80s
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Realistically wouldn’t be. The APG-70 was pulled off of C-models well before the upgrades this one has
ah ok ty
but why did they have the apg 63 replace it with an apg 70 only to switch back to apg 63(1)
The last set of F-15Cs built has APG-70s from the factory. But the A2G features weren’t really necessary for USAF use and the radar was less reliable comparatively. Plus pulling them off the C-models meant they could be placed onto the E-models once that rolled out shortly after
The APG-70 was a APG-63 streamlined for reliability and had a few extra bells and whistles that dont help purebred fightercraft, the APG-63(V)1 took all the developments that the 70 and APG-63(V)2 made both software and reliability wise and installed it onto the base APG-63 frame for a far lower cost and its backwards compatible with existing APG-63s and PSPs.
TLDR it was cheaper and everyone, not just the US could get APG-70 performance or better out of their existing APG-63s.
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The radar is likely APG-63(V)1
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Where ww can see dev datamine?
we are getting datamines from the update already?
You can download it arleady. But can’t log in
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JrbPJbkkcmTz
DEV - F-15C incorrect AIM-120 amount // Gaijin.net // Issues
Man you have got to be kidding me.
Question is now, is it any different from the existing 63 in game.
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I have sac sheet. Its will be proof for 8 aim-120s
Chronologically
Original Apg 63
1979 - Apg 63 psp(they removed the hardware radar signal processor unit 041 in exchange for a digital psp unit 042, memory was increased 4x, 24k to 96k, removal of some modes like LPRF and introduction others like RAM, )
1985 - MSIP happens (TWS, NCTR, RGH. . . memory increased to 384k, removal of RAM)
Apg 70(for strike eagles and last 43 C eagles coming from production plants in 1985). Apg 63 and apg 70 have basically the same A2A capabilities with the 70 having A2G.
1987 - (MSIP2?) memory increased to 512k, faster ADC, 2in1receiver exciter, amraam, MH sparrow, Vector Mode, expanded azimuth from ±60° to ± 75° during STT )
UP TO HERE the detection performance remained practically the same, 77 Nautical Miles(143km) for a 2m² target in RWS HPRF
Early 90s - apg 63 v1
Hardware changes to both 70/63 using VHSICs and other modules, new modes, updates etc.
Performance increased aswell.
164 - F-15Cs got retrofitted.
Beyond its v2 and v3 which is classified
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V2 is 2000, 1st generation AESA
V3 is ~2010, current use
And if you want to go further,
APG-82v1 uses the V3 as a base and builds off of there with expanded A2G and other improvements, can kind of look at it as -63 to -70