I refuse to believe that something with only 9Ls is better against ARH missiles than something with long range and very quick ARH missiles.
Regardless, the F-14IRAF shouldn’t be facing 11.7 planes, and the F-14A definitely doesn’t need to go down and ruin 11.3 again.
One single aircraft shouldn’t be able to dictate a match as much as it currently does. Gaijin either needs to add a comparable plane with comparable capabilities, or move the IRAF up to 13.0 where it belongs.
F-14A IRIAF is incapable of fragging any competent 11.7 pilot with radar missiles, they’d need to get in dirty with AIM-9Hs and/or guns.
F-14A tech tree never ruined 11.3, that’s a myth made up by people that want their vehicles to be OP and unkillable.
IRIAF only moves to 13.0 when F-4J/FGR2 move up to 12.3, ALL 13.0s move up to 13.3, Mig-23ML moves to 12.0, ALL 12.7s to 13.0, ALL 12.3s to 12.7…
There is zero justification for a Mig-23 with SPO-10 to be facing not garbage ARH missiles. And afaik, the FGR2 is overtiered when compared to the F-4S.
It did, and it’s the main reason why we have the Mig-21bis at 11.0.
You’re also failing to mention that it has superior flight performance to almost everything under 12.7. Once again, Gaijin needs to add a plane with similar capability in another tree. There is zero excuse for a single plane to be able to dictate matches as much as it currently does.
I also highly doubt that it’s worse than the 13.0 harriers, which also can’t move down.
you’re critically underselling the Persian tomcat dude. Literally think critically for a second just a few months ago people were bemoaning it as the most op jet in the game it going up .3 br won’t make it bad. I really don’t see your point about planes at a higher br being better either, for example let’s take the mig29 for comparison, the spo15 is comparable to the f14a rwr, it doesn’t tell you aircraft or exact location (definitely good enough though) it does have a launch warning and radar type though and both wouldn’t alert you to Fox3s until they’re pitbull, the f14a radar is superior with better detection and longer range with the ability to use src mode(it can be a little tricky to get close range rear aspect locks if you’re looking down at low alt because you lack a regular pr mode however it’s not a big issue) the mig has a hmd but only the r27 can really use it effectively dude to the r60s gimble limits speaking of, the r60 is about as flare resistant as the aim9p if a little worse while having less range for all aspect, honestly I prefer the sidewinder. the r27er IS NOT better than the fakour 90 (in neither range or energy) besides anything but a close range fight in which you should be using the r27r which would can actually pull more high aspect shots than the er due to not sh*tting out a ton of energy immediately after launch (I have extensive experience in the yak141 which carries both). the only real weakness would be the extremely hot engines, you get the same amount of countermeasures as the mig29. And you’re lying if you think the f14a is a bad airframe it’s fast with the wings back and has incredible turn rate with them fully forward (if you’re too lazy to control it manually it’s on you).
It’s not that it is not good or you can’t go well with it. It just isn’t unbalanced which is what the title says.
Some people like it some others not…
But in any case it is not unbalanced. There are planes in the game that are unbalanced and not even deserve to be good in “dogfights” , let’s put it like this.
The problem starts with people not wanting to even try to defend against the missile. I see them what they do all the time. I’ve seen Tomcat getting Ace from the get go. Guess what the others did… a hint, they didn’t even turn , not notch.
the plane is comparable to others around the br range and just a flat upgrade over the f14a (although the aim9h does outrange the p). fakour90s are not comparable to aim54s whatsoever the energy difference is night and day bring both in a test drive and you’ll understand, the fakour is more comparable to medium range fox3s while having far superior range. if the br was increased I would want the ability to bring 6 fakours and 2 fatter (Iranian sidewinder copy)
Two terms that should never be in the same sentence
AIM-9P*
Nah, F-14A USN were ruining Meta shamelessly thanks to the unique characteristic of AIM-54 and exclusiveness to the USA.
Two years of bloodshed.
Sorry sir, but this sounds like a bad take to me.
I agree with you on some point that
But, Brit-thoms seem quite overrated I nearly saw none of them flying.
Just like F-14A USN<->F-14A IRIAF does,
Brit-thoms shouldn’t be the same BR with F-4J/S USN thanks to Skyflash(normie)
Lmao how people get shocked that mig23 can bomb… If you log in the game you will find almost every mig23 carrying 2x R-24R and napalm bomb. And without the bomb you can only carry 4 more R-60M missiles which are useless unless for airfield strafing.
This makes me remember people blaming the premium F-104S bombing. Yeah the first 2 fastest vehicles in this BR… are not supposed to bomb, according to fighter jocks (or some angry Tornado bombers? Haha)
Uhh, the MiG-23 is one of the most potent fighters at its BR, even moreso now that it’s at 11.7. I’m not shocked per se for the MiG-23 being able to bomb, I’ve literally played it before, I find it more shocking that people would buy a $70 digital fighter aircraft with some of the best air to air armaments for the tier, and waste four of them for bombs that you don’t even get a computer for.
The difference is in the fact the F-104 has a turn radius thats just ever so slightly smaller than the LHC and its best missiles are AIM-7Es and AIM-9Js, which are not All-Aspect IR Missiles, unlike the R-60Ms and R-24Ts, nor are they Radar-Slaving
Flogger Bombers are literally the aircraft equivalent of this dude
bro just get good at the game, the mig23ml isn’t a bomber the 4 r60m will net you way more rp/sl
Lol, currently the reward (RP) for bombing one base is nearly 1.5-2 times the one for killing one enemy. Can you reliably get 2 kills using those r60 missiles? In addition when you join furball you often get spammed by those op missiles like magic 2 and r73 and finally get killed, and I just run between the airfield and bases printing RP and SL.
you have 72 large countermeasures that’s more than enough to defeat a couple irrcm fox2s just pre flare and the r73 can’t lock and napalm gives you like nothing lmao, I can reliable get 2-3 kills without issues
Anyone who base bombs in a Mig-21 or Mig-23 (minus the BN) should be banned from air RB.
Or Gaijin needs to remove napalm on every plane classified as a fighter.
Did you know that R-60s and R-73s don’t reliably get kills at 1-2 miles in rear aspect against fast opponents? You’d know that, right?
OP? Loud Incorrect Buzzer
Magic 2s are only good when they’re launched in the golden spot, the aft hemisphere of your aircraft. They can be oneflared almost immediately from any other aspect. R-73s on the otherhand have seen multiple nerfs, bringing them to a point where if you cut burner and flare they aren’t reliably hitting.
How many votes to get this on the next roadmap?
Seeing people bomb in the J-7D has made me turn off my own chat so I don’t get chat banned
J7D is something different. They can’t finish a base. The PL-5B or PL-7 are effective missiles in that BR. Now the mig23… Nearly everyone use multipath on the ground so R24R become useless, and those IR missiles… lmao.
But in all cases Gaijin won’t punish players simply because they use any plane for bombing.
2 years of F-14As dying more like.
Not a single match I was in F-14As did anywhere close to dominate, and that’s seen in my own stats too.
Chronically average jet when it was the same BR as EJ Kai, and now F-14A tech tree is entirely unplayable.
Right now either F-14A TT is over-BR’d or the PD Phantoms are under-BR’d. Pick one and agree, or you’re calling for bias.
Cause the exclusive difference between F-4J and F-14A is flight performance, and the exclusive difference between FGR2 and F-14A is Skyflash vs AIM-7F, and a bit of flight performance as well though less so since FGR2 can bring less fuel mass than both F-4J and F-14A.
The thing with F-4JUK is that it doesn’t have the Spey engines so it has to bring the same fuel mass as standard F-4Js.
I haven’t done a fuel mass test in a while for these aircraft so I’ll edit this post with the screenshots within 10 minutes.
5 minutes 30 seconds on the clock:
Would you look at that, at higher speeds the FG1 becomes a better airframe for air RB; being smack in the middle of F-4S and F-14A in higher speed flight performance. That would be why F-4JUK does worse than the FG1 and FGR2 in air RB, it’s just a worse airframe for air RB than the FG1 and FGR2.
Lock 3 miles out on unaware target (usually prems), fire it and forget they exist
Have you tried climbing in it?
Usually there’s at least 1 other plane that climbs, and it very easily allows you to get 1-2 easy kills. R-24Rs are very good SARH missiles, and R-60ms are a decent backup that can still be used in headons, and against unaware targets.
