I really don’t understand where you people find this propaganda tier information. The mig29 and tornado were broken on every aspect on release, only the f16 had a actual finished model. Only time it became on par or better with the f16 was the 2nd itteration
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What?
That’s some BS
The f16 on apex predators launch day. It had a finalised and polished model, even in the devserver. Meanwhile the mig29 was added in an unfinished state, ranging from an underperfoming FM (AoA, elevators bugging) to a broken radar. It didn’t have ERs for a week, and the HMD ACM came much later
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The F-16 also had an unfinished AoA thats why it felt like it was limited to 9Gs.
It had HMD for IR missiles though
Don’t remember this one? What was bugged about it?
You could turn like a biplane at ±700 ias… Yeah you couldn’t pull unrealistic aoa at mach ~1 like it does now. At ±700 ias you would always outurn the mig29 even with its best FM
With the limited gimbal the r60s have, it didn’t make a big difference.
Wouldn’t lock most of the time, couldn’t keep tws lock, would bug constantly with ACM. Took them more than a month to fix half of this
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It could beat a MiG-29 below 700kmh but a good MiG-29 could just keep the fight high speed and if for whatever reason the MiG-29 starts losing the fight, it could just extend with its insane acceleration and gain all of that speed back.
R-60M isn’t the only IR missile the MiG-29 had. Most people brought the R-27T until the R-27ER came out.
I think this was universal? I remember at the time my F-16/F-14 would get stuck at ACM and literally I couldn’t do anything about it.
You can evade the AIM-7F unlike the R-27R, I’ve won nearly all my jousts with F-4S pilots simply by evading their AIM-7F and the same can’t be done for the R-27R.
The R-27R is better within 10km and worse at range or that’s how I like to imagine it
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Maybe? I remember there was a test video of the F-90 barely being able to kill a target thats offset because it accelerates way too fast and it doesn’t have enough AoA
I destroyed a semi-evading plane within 7km with my Fakour-90, I haven’t come across a single problem with the missile and I’m loving it (quite literally a AMRAAM minus the G overload and more range).
Click on the link to see the kill ^^
I got a KDR of like 4 so far in my IRIAF F-14A including stock grind
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I was talking about a more demanding maneuver than flying kind of sideways. I’m almost done the F-90 grind so I’ll see.
I’ve seen videos of people claiming the Fakour-90 accelerates so fast that it simply can’t hit a mostly static target moving in a straight line which in almost all circumstances is untrue, the missile turns shortly after ripping off the rails and turns incredibly nicely at long ranges.
The Fakour-90 in fact can turn harder than the AIM-54 in many circumstances due to it being able to gain speed faster therefor more wind is going over its fins.
You’ll see what I mean once you unlock it, personal experience is the best way to take in information
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That plane was flying completely straight what do you mean semi evading lmao
As in the fact that it was flying 90 degrees to me making it so the missile which ways around 600kg has to adjust to make up for this offset, that is why I said semi-evading since it technically isn’t but for the missiles case you could consider it effectively evading by being in the notch minus chaff.
My point however still stands, the Fakour-90 obviously can still hit moving targets unlike what some people have been claiming, no?
I mean the missile might be 600kg but the target is flying in a straight line 7km away, the missile has plenty of time to pull and lead. I doubt the missile even pulled more than 4Gs there.
I’ve tested the capabilities of the Fakour-90 in test drive and I’ll post a visual demonstration on how well it can turn whist holding a hard lock, it still far exceeds most peoples claims but there will indeed be situations were missiles act incredibly stupid and this is a overall game issue rather than a Fakour-90 issue.
Oh yeah, and in the clip I’ve sent it was indeed more than 4Gs as you’ve claimed, closer to 10
My point still stands, people either haven’t tested it properly or are straight up lying about the performance of the Fakour-90 compared to the AIM-54 bus.
Fair enough
I do wanna note that, that test is not really representative of an actual match. You’re going like 380kmh, the turn radius of the F-90 is gonna be reduced obviously.
This is a better test, going closer to mach:
This video just reinforces the Fakour-90s ability, my main point was in all scenarios besides maybe one in a hundreds matches the Fakour-90 should be more than capable of hitting a static target flying hot towards you.
The plane itself going Mach also doesn’t reflect the missiles manoeuvrability itself, it would be more subject to real matches yes but going Mach at a hard side angle is also something you generally wouldn’t do (I was only doing it to show it can far exceed 10Gs).
My biggest issue however mainly is the Sedjil, it’s god awful and I never take anything but R-27Rs on the wing pylons.
I already agreed
It does. The faster the missile the larger the turning radius. Obviously if the missile is too slow then theres not enough airspeed to pull AoA.
It does. The faster the missile the larger the turning radius. Obviously if the missile is too slow then theres not enough airspeed to pull AoA
I’m talking about the missile itself without the aircraft in equation, like a AIM-9M on a helicopter. Just the raw performance of the missile and it will get enough airspeed anyways, this uses a Hawk motor designed for surface to air launch.
But yes, the aircraft speed will also impact the performance of the missile, that’s why the R-60MK on the German Hind-P is god awful compared to the SU-22M3s R-60MKs.
What I’m saying is that going 380kmh to test the missile’s maneuverability is not representative of an actual match since you’re decreasing the missile’s turn radius by going slow.
A realistic scenario would be going closer to mach because thats a realistic launch conditions.
Also yes the F-90 can probably hit targets flying in a straight line but I think it can easily be avoided close range if you know how to maneuver.