Expanding The F/A-18C Armaments

The F/A-18C is being added next update, better late than never. Unfortunately, it’s ground attack armament is quite limited in its current state on the dev server in comparison to real life. Being limited to only four AGM-65’s or four to eight GPS/laser guided bombs, its smart weaponry is quite limiting. I propose that the F/A-18C Late receives two new weapons, being the AGM-84E SLAM, and the AGM-154C JSOW.

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The AGM-84E SLAM, not to be confused with the similar AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER, is simply put, a modified Harpoon anti-ship missile with an AGM-65D seeker put on the nose instead of the usual radar seeker, intended for hitting high value targets. The F/A-18C can carry four of them on the inboard pylons. It utilizes the GPS guidance of the AGM-84 for the first stages of flight, then switches to IR guidance for the terminal phase. If no target is found with the IR seeker, it will continue flying straight towards where it was fired, using GPS. In real life, the AGM-84E could utilize man-in-the-loop guidance with datalink, however Gaijin has stated that they do not intend on ever adding this feature to currently in game weapon systems that could utilize it, so I will not consider this a balancing factor.

One concern with this weapon system being added is its ridiculous maximum range of well over 100km. This could be addressed in two ways, similar to how the brimstone was handled:

  • Removing the GPS capability from the missile, so it only uses the IR seeker for guidance, requiring you to be within 20km of the target, basically making it a slower Kh-38MT
  • Limiting its guidance time so shots from over 20km wouldn’t be possible

A case could be made that the AGM-84E would be somewhat balanced around the fact that it is turbojet powered, making it slow compared to other missiles, only reaching around 850km/h. This would make it quite easy to shoot down by SAM systems, however it wouldn’t have an obvious missile trail.

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AGM-154C JSOW is a large GPS/IR guided glide bomb, nothing we haven’t seen in game already. The F/A-18C can carry four on single racks on the inboard pylons, with capability for potentially eight mounted on BRU-55 twin racks. I will only consider the AGM-154C fit to be added currently, as the A and B variants utilize cluster munitions/submunitions, which Gaijin hasn’t added yet. The AGM-154C uses a BROACH warhead, which has a first stage HEAT warhead and a follow up HE warhead, to ensure target destruction. The seeker choice would require a direct or near hit to kill the target, as the WDU-45 HE warhead is only around 100kg. The IR seeker is apparently derived from an AGM-65 seeker, so a 20km IR lock range would likely be chosen for it, like most other IR AGM’s.

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These weapon systems would give the F/A-18C a unique step above the F-15E, allowing for extended range standoff munitions, in turn for carrying less air to ground armament, and, in my opinion, would leave a net positive to the game. Especially considering the Su-30SM is being added with six Kh-38MT’s, without the downsides that the Su-34 carries with it to combat, and with a thermal targeting pod to boot.

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It’s half an attacker so it makes sense to give it a decent variety of attacker weaponry I guess…

would love to see! do you plan on making a report or something?

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It tops out in the cruise phase at Mach .85 (291 m/s, ~1050kph) and can reach 0.95 (~330m/s, ~1100kph) terminally. Also theoretically it could also be treated like the AGM-119A and use the INS selection to be fired beyond lock on range.

If it has access to the BRU-55 station adapter it can carry two per station.

I thought F-18Cs were limited in this to 1 per station regardless of adapter.

I’d have to see if I can find it again for the F/A-18 to be absolutely sure, but the BRU-57 for the F-16 can take 2x

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I am pretty certain that with the BRU-55 adapter, the AGM-154 would be too wide to fit next to another pair of BRU-55 mounted AGM-154’s. Though, it (probably) would be able to carry six AGM-154’s, with one double rack and one single rack per wing. I was actually completely unaware of the BRU-55’s compatibility with the AGM-154 before you mentioned this, thank you for pointing it out, I will edit the OP post with this new information, thank you.

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can BRU-55 be put on F-15E wing stations?
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Those weapons would take months to develop and balance for BR placement; though of course they should be added when ready, I do want them after all.
The F-18C is already unkillable via SPAA in ground RB without any further weapons.

The AGM-65s are already the KH-38 equivalent missile as well for the foreseeable future.

but we need the best named a2g weapon ingame

Maybe, I can’t remember off the top of my head if they reuse the geometry of the BRU-33/A or BRU-33A/A, for the -55, as one is canted outboard slightly the other isn’t and so even though being externally similar have different clearance requirements.

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The AGM-154 was a joint venture by the USAF and USN, but the USAF chose not to adopt it. Only the USN uses the weapon currently, so IMO it should’t be added to the F-15E as it was only really evaluated with it.

if it could use it, and it was in US inventory, it should get it

and didnt USAF only stop in 2005, and JSOW entered service 1999?

My bad, thought you were talking about 2x per station for AGM-84s.

The KH-38MT is NOT an AGM-65 equivalent, you have clearly only ever used Kh-38MT’s and not AGM-65’s. Come back to this argument when you have flown aircraft with both weapon systems.

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I don’t think so, none of the brochure’s I’ve seen indicate anything other than BRU-61 on the wing station(s), though with UAI compatibility I don’t think that it would be particularly difficult to actually mount the BRU-57 if there was a need.


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Yes, but it wasn’t formerly adopted, so I don’t think it really should be added. It really doesn’t need it either. Also not to mention, the USAF only tested the A variant, which is one of the wacky submunition variants, they never fitted the C variant to the F-15E.

nice, unrelated, but bottom one shows BLU-27 for F-15E. could be a nice option for it.

it might as well get it if its possible + some were in possesion of USAF during F-15E service life. if they give it to hornet (they should) they should also give it to the F-16 and F-15
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I edited my post while you were posting this, the USAF only evaluated the AGM-154A which is a cluster bomb, which Gaijin has never added before and likely wont. The AGM-154C is the only variant that isn’t a cluster/submunition utilizing bomb and that was never tested or fitted by the USAF.