FlightGlobal asked [Dong Haik Shin] about recent reports that Indonesia will order 16 KF-21s.
He confirms that Indonesia has paid its share of development costs for the KF-21. He indicates that deep discussions are underway with Indonesia about the initial 16 aircraft, with total Indonesian orders possibly coming to 48 jets.
Should a confirmed deal emerge, the jets would be produced by KAI in South Korea, but Indonesia will also have industrial participation.
Early plans for the programme had called for Indonesia to produce 48 examples of a special IF-X variant domestically.
Indonesia is familiar with KAI’s aircraft. It recently received six additional T-50I advanced jet trainers from the company, bringing its total fleet to 22 aircraft. It also operates 20 KT-1 basic trainers.
in essence, Its not 100% there yet as its still being discussed, but if it were to go ahead then it would be 16x units as part of the initial order, and a possible increase of up to 48 as an option. Industrial participation there could mean that ID would make components for the jet
honestly putting news of this is kinda useless since its basically boils down to “we’re in discussion” and nothing more. But it is a new interview so might as well put it here
i quote verbatim from the creator of that presentation:
"This image is just an illustration, don’t take it seriously."
People also mention this as noteworthy
“Russia received a request from Indonesia for the supply of weapons and military equipment for the period from 2025 to 2030, the 1Prime agency reported”
but if you take a look at the original source its just restates things which we know
In November 2024, Russia received an application from Indonesia for the supply of weapons and military equipment for 2025-2030, the offer is in operation.
Among the proposals of Rosoboronexport Jakarta are the aircraft of the 5th and 4++ generations of the Su-57E and the Su-35 and the means of destruction for them: guided missiles X-31PD, Kh-35UE, Il-78M-90A tankers, Ka-52E helicopters and Mi-17, UAVs. Among the armored vehicles: a light floating tank “Sprut” and BMP-3F, submarines and ships of the coastal zone, the latest air defense systems: S-400 “Triumph” and S-350E “Vityaz”, ZRPK “Pantsir-S1M”, MANPADS “Verba”, means of combating drones.
I’ve mentioned this infact back in june last year
Here’s a similar news article basically reporting the same thing, also from June 2025
IIRC, the guy behind Lembaga Keris on Facebook also said sometime ago that the amount of Su-35 planned to be procured is around half of a squadron, so this is another confirmation.
Maybe at the same time that we’ll get our live Meteor missiles. TNI-AU usually are pretty strict with publicizing their equipment, so unless they showed it themself or someone leaked it, we’ll never know.
And, since we don’t have the missiles yet, why would you need the IRST anyway?
because IRST is quite important when dealing with 5th gen as a 4th gen and Indonesia is surrounded by 5th gen users.
so it’d be a big fumble if it’s not equipped for the Rafale lol
I think what he meant is that we dont even have the missiles currently , so an IRST wouldnt be useful for anything since the missiles hasnt arrived yet
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Because at the moment, the Rafales does not have the means to engage in air-to-air combat (as they don’t have air-to-air missiles), what use is the IRST?
We don’t even know when the Rafales will achieve IOC status, let alone FOC and being combat capable. We just have to wait and see.