That doesn’t make sense, the missile is the same between both AFAIK. Only that the seeker is swapped from IR to ARH
Aerodynamic
Another seeker cover has more streamlined shape what decreases drag and increases range of ARH variant
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gotcha, i didnt know
Can’t the crew on the TADS able to manually control the radar to point to any direction they want as well? Cuz that will also help a lot instead of the constant slow rotations. ARH missiles will become a lot more accurate that way against helis too.
Gaijin had this mechanic somewhat in the dev server
It was still incorrect but it was there
Then they removed it shortly after which sucks…
Considering it’s not even an IR guided missile, but an optical one, this still really annoys me.
I’m not sure what Gaijin sees when looking at DIRCM helis with their eyes, but I just see a heli, and so should the optical imaging missiles of the Type 81.
Once we get radar return from heli rotors and the ARH missile’s PESA seeker implemented this should be solved. Let’s just hope it happens soon.
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Sadly Gaijin removed their attempt at the directional tracking mode. They had it on dev, where it was a weird mechanical scan instead of ESA but at least looked like it was being worked on.
I also hope we get a search only mode, because LOAL is annoying to use when having to turn radar off and on again.
I desperately want to know what the devs doing for the TADS right now…sometimes I wish i was a Dev so I can see/understand the process on how to fix these issues lol its so heartbreaking to see this thing have 10+ bugs when it was a highly anticipated vehicle to counter Helis and further away targets.
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All the time, despite the missile being about as ‘‘hard’’ to defeat as an AMRAAM…
Same seeker as all the other ARH missiles in the game, so…
Switching it to optical mode only and using the datalink to get it close to helis might work, but otherwise it might just proxy on the heli by flying by it and since it’s optical, won’t be affected by DIRCM and will continue in datalink until it locks on or detonates
Optical won’t work if it’s too low as it won’t see the target and from how ARH behaves while IOG+DL guided, it won’t get close enough.
I still hate how they implemented this… Even ignoring that it’s an imaging seeker that can filter out additional contrasts like the ground, this isn’t even how a contrast seeker would work.
Ground clutter doesn’t magically appear below a certain altitude, it’s when tge ground enters missile FOV and interferes with the targeting since it’s another contrast from the seekrrs point of view.
Once the missile is close enough or at the right angle not to have the ground in the FOV, it shouldn’t be able to interfere at all. With the missiles 0.5 FOV in game this wouldn’t even need to be very close, but somehow Gaijin still decided heli immunity was a good idea…
The only issue with DL and ARH I’ve noticed is multipathing because the ARH seeker takes priority. However, with optical, the seeker will be off always and rely on DL which is good enough for hovering helis. Once we get track mode it’ll be even better. Optical will be our cheat code unless they never add DL to IR missile
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Yup.
Only took normal IR missiles since this is bad weather and forces CAS to fly lower and somewhat closer, this would of been a perfect launch against a drone if it had the IOG+DL instead of just IR guidance. I still trust this missile more than I do with ARH due to how they don’t crash on ground just because they flying low.
Also, managed to get close enough to enemy spawn lol CAS or tanks wont bother checking for SAMs there.
Does anyone have good quality picures of the fire control radar we got in game?
All i can find is the pictures of the smaller one.
Nice, thanks
I’m not sure, but probably this.
Tan-SAM Kai/TADS - TEL vehicles do not lead the locked target
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The original Type 81, prior to the Kai upgrade, used an IOG to fly toward a predicted intercept point with its seeker inactive, engaging the target in a LOAL mode. However, it was easy to evade if the target changed course or deployed flares at the right moment.
To improve this, the Tan-SAM Kai adopted UTDC guidance, enabling real-time course correction during target maneuvers. It also combined IR and CCD sensors to increase resistance to flares. Since IR+CCD systems can be ineffective under certain weather conditions, ARH missiles were also introduced in the Kai.
The ARH missiles use active phased array (≈ AESA) seekers. Although TWT-based seekers were originally planned, AESA was chosen due to size limitations of the seeker head. This is documented in “Current Status and Future Prospects of Japan’s RF Technology”, Defense Technology Journal, 1998, Vol.18, No.1, p.12 (“わが国の電波技術の現状と将来展望”, 防衛技術ジャーナル, 1998, vol.18, No.1, p.12)
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Are you working on a camo for it?