100 kN engines rather than 90kN
(iirc)
probably actually warrented as Rafale is getting the uprated M88 TREX in the F.5 version (73kN to 88kN)
with AMK it will make the EF significantly more capable than it already it
It’s kinda impressive how they’re planning to get that small engine (69 cm inlet) to produce from originally 50/75 kN to about 60/88 kN. That’s nearly 9 tons of thrust for such a small engine (90 cm overall diameter and 354 cm length).
Advancements in technology will do that
Even 75kn would probably make an early jet engine designer faint
Tvc too
I know but when you read with what kind of mechanics they try to offset the difficulties in developing the materials your eyebrows will rise into your hairline lol
For example: Currently they’re trying to implement “plasma cooling” by continously coating the turbine blades in a thin plasma during operation to form a type of barrier against the heat.
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Sorry, I came over from the Snailmine Discord and thought this was the Rumors thread.
Turkey also claims KAAN will be superior to F-22/35 while they have zero knowledge on building 4.5 gen fighters, let alone building proper 5th gen.
They also claimed that their new engine is capable of producing 43k lbs power without any realible source.
They couldn’t even produce Altay tank despite they announced that it was going to be in serial production 12 years ago.
I like their efforts but lets be real, most of their claims are just empty.
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yeah, 43lbs engine power is totally unrealistic :p
I mean considering F35 engine also produces similiar amount of thrust its not completely unrealistic.
Truth is Usa one of few countries that is specialized building very powerful engines and they spend almost 2 decade to create that engine so when suddenly Turkey comes out and claims they make similar engine without actual experience on very advance avionic principles it doesn’t sound realistic at all.
If they were so good at building engines/planes they wouldn’t buy Eurofighter Typhoon in the first place.
You guys sound like you’ve met your first china
to clarify 43lbs is slightly less than 20kg, implying that they can’t develop an engine that produces ~195N of thrust is funny
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It is funny considering the mock-up they showed is 1/1 scale GE-110-29 engine that is used on their F-16’s.
Keep in mind 110-132 an engine that is successor of 29 could achieve 33k lbs under optimal conditions.
Somehow Turkey managed to modify their GE engines to achieve same thrust that F-35’s PW engines produce? I wonder why USA couldn’t achieve the same thing with their GE engines considering they are the one who invented in the first place.
Stupid USA engineers/s.
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At least China actually produce their domestic engines and use them on their jets, not to mention those WS-10 engines achieve similiar results that Russian Al series can and their numbers are publicly available.
Meanwhile Turkey suddenly comes out, show us a GE-110-29 engine mockup and claims it can produce almost double amount of thrust that original engine can while having no concrete data, bench thrust figures or actual tests on airframe.
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Playing devils advocate - they may well have. It’s just that the engine maybe didn’t survive the experience…
After all, it’s fairly easy to dump vast quantities of fuel into a jet pipe and blast it out the back - we call them rockets. It is less easy to make an engine that can deliver lots of thrust, sustained, without bits of it blowing out the back in the process.
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Issue isn’t achieving those thrust for single burst, its about achieving same figures while bein sustainable.
I’m pretty sure current engines on our fighters could produce much higher thrust values in exchange for single use, that doesn’t mean its realisticly achievable tho.
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you forgot to include the “k” in “43k lbf” implying that they can’t make a jet with enough thrust to lift a small child
Turkey surely claims it has GTA6 in its basement, trust.
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Real
Unless you’re act different or having bad faith you should be able to understand the figures what I’m talking about.
i thought “:p” would have been enough of a clue that im just poking a little fun
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