Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

full fuel EF weight (no missiles):

just add the loadout weight:

it might not be able to carry as much internal fuel as irl, i think

bc if you do the math with the loadout weight from WT it carries ~5640kg of fuel irl

meanwhile in WT its max internal fuel weight is 4650kg so the EF might be missing the ability to carry an extra ton of internal fuel ingame

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Developers like reports that show the aircraft with pilot, full fuel, ammo, etc so that it is known what the true empty weight can be as that can be worked backwards, rather than other reports such as giving only sources that state empty weight, which did fail to be implemented for the Rafale and was rejected by developers, so no it isn’t a Rafale thing.

AFAIK the definition of “Empty Weight” is standardized for aircrafts by the FAA (Site 10-5):

Standard empty weight (GAMA)—aircraft weight that consists of the airframe, engines, and all items of operating equipment that have fixed locations and are permanently installed in the aircraft, including fixed ballast, hydraulic fluid, unusable fuel, and full engine oil.

This is what the developers should use, everything else comes ontop (like pilot, fuel, ammo, etc. as they’re removable and therefore don’t fall under the definition of “empty weight”).

And then there’s the issue that what devs consider empty weight is not necessarily the same weight as what’s shown on datamines.
But I do agree that they should standardize things a bit. The last bug where they added gun weight to all aircraft’s twice was a bit silly.
My guess is that they use this « empty weight » historically because of the way they did research with older aircrafts

This is not why most don’t gimbal.

The reason most don’t gimbal is because the originally one of the biggest benefits of going to the AESA is the removal of moving parts greatly reducing the maintenance footprint of the radar system.

By putting an AESA on a gimbal you just reintroduce those moving parts, while putting an even heavier antenna on the end of it.

For Stealth aircraft, a fixed installation is better as those gimbals create a reflective surface that is not going to be very easily disguised. And the solution is to just put more antennas in a side looking profile, which has been greatly aided by miniaturization efforts of the technology.

99% of Typhoon reports have been accepted and pending for at least 6 months, many have been pending since dev server 10 months ago.

Several including AMRAAM, Aim-9M and BOL reports (And BOL is most critical and immediate issue) has been pending 2 years at this point.

To claim once again “well if the EFT is bad maybe you should submit more bug reports” is jsut being pretentious

and also dont claim that whole “well maybe the Brits are jsut bad at writing reports, maybe you should get better at writing reports” nonsense either. Most of the reports have been done by a senior tech mod

So instead, lets bring the Rafale down to everyone else level. Starting with ahistorical weapon fits. Loadout is used as a balancing tool for everything else. Heck the Typhoon should have at a minimum SAL brimstones 2s by now, if not MMW Brimstone 2s. But we still have SAL Brimstone 1s. So I dont think its unreasoanble to remove 2x MICA the Rafale C F3 couldnt equip

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Well, feel free to try then.

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AIM-54 reports 💀

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Maus Turret front thickness report 6-7 years

Centurion Mk.10 mantlet report from like 2016?

Gaijin loves to take their time.

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Well, they take their logo seriously…

Oh lord this shit again.

You people will never be satisfied even if the Rafale loses an engine, gains 2 tonnes of dead mass, has a WW2 radar and only has two Magic I missiles instead of MICA and Magic II. Why can’t you just put your effort into something positive for once?

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I get it, you like an easy aircraft that can instantly win every fight that requires 0 skill. But that doesnt make it balanced.

The equivalent would be sticking the Typhoon at 13.0, thats how far ahead the Rafale is at the moment.

But sure, continue defending the Rafales OP nature.

I cant wait for the Rafale mains to be screaming in pain when the Typhoon gets its IRL performance

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What’s better, nerfing one plane only or making an entire br range of planes useless?
Geez I wonder

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Particularly when said plane is ahistorical buffed in the first place, the fix to the current situation is both easy and obvious

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Yeah, and once all your nerfs come to the rafale and it loses to a Ju-288 in flight performance and weapons you’ll still cry that it’s too strong. EF2000 is already the best flying plane in the game with an actual UFO FM that effortlessly beats anything else WVR and is only held back by bugs (which btw aren’t exclusive to the EF2000 or the fault of the Rafale) and the devs being pigheaded.

Two can play that game, You want to pull buff after buff until the EF2000 walks all over the game with zero skill or effort.

Oh, so just like what would happen if you people got your way? Where anything other than EF2000 is just food for EF2000?

Dont make the mistake of thinking every other nations players think the same way French mains do and want a plane with literally 0 competition.

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Except you people are incredibly predictable and you’ll not be satisfied with removal of 2 missiles, you’ll then ask for the HMD to be gone, then the radar to be nerfed, then the flight performance, and so on.

Let’s both not act like the rafale fm, ESPECIALLY at high altitude, and its acceleration/turn there, is accurate what so ever

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Mistake? It’s the truth. All players want their favorite stuff to be the most broken. You people defend your favored tree’s broken stuff when it comes with the same zeal as all the others.

Proving my point exactly.

What happens when it’s all over and you get your way?