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ASRAAM probably could too. But the warhead would make both pretty worthless against tanks.
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Could be useful against SPAA, much faster than a Brimstone for instance.
Now 8 with the F-16I.
and could be like 28 (iirc) if they ever add GBU-53s
and if we expand to Helis, we’ve had 16x FnF for a while on the AH-60, and now AH-64E
FnF AGMs for all?
Same could be said with Rafale and Su-34 and Su-30 before they started adding new SAMs. And whether much has changed is a debate to be had.
But denying 3 nations any form of FnF because “reasons” is unfair, especially as it hasnt curtailed anyone else.
As it stands, they just need to add increasing SP costs for the more of a weapon type you take. That shouldnt just apply to Brimstones, but JAGM-MR, Spikes, etc etc.
But denying any form of FnF despite solutions for mitigations is just stupid and artificially nerfing the SAL versions ontop of that…
What’s nations don’t get fnf at all?
Hammer IR isn’t even capable of tracking moving targets IRL.
Something something something no fictional guidance modes…
China?
Typhoon obviously has no FnF or standoff weapon worth mentioning but all have something else they can run
Germany can use the F-18
Britain can use Gripen, Harrier or F-18
Italy can use Gripen or Harrier.
But basically anyone reliant on AGM-65 at 13.0 is extremely underpowered.
Yeah… but thats French Bias for you
China has kh29s
Are they even worth mentioning though above about 11.0?
Especially only being TV guided and not even IIR (so even more screwed on night maps)
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helis are far more vulnerable, and can’t instantly come around a house to fire another AGM
i’m not against that,… but not MMW ARH for now, unless CM are in place for most Ground units.
can 3 Rafale destroy all the ground unit of Air RB mission in less than 3.5 minutes?
can 3 Su-34 do?
no,… because the ground units are about 48/56 per missions:
3x6= 18 missiles
3x8= 24 missiles
meanwhile:
3x18 = 54 missiles
Unless they get an su-35 or su-30mk/mk2, they’re not going to get proper fnf with it unfortunately, their native ones are cruise missiles so until they get kh38mt they’re stuck with kh29 (unless they finally update the mlu f16 to get maverick d/g)
If we are talking about ARB and not GRB and therefore static targets. I would like to direct your attention to the GBU-39 on the F-15s. That can carry 20x FnF weapons already (and I think it should be 28)
Does the German eft even get brimstones irl?
They recently acquired Brimstone 3s.
Italy I dont think has any.
Niether natioin has purchased Paveway IVs either.
But Gaijin is just operating on a Typhoon = Typhoon no matter what nation operates it
i thought i made it clear when coming on the number of EF-2000 AGM’s
yet, the number of AGM’s on board EF-2000 would be far more impactful in GRB aswell, if those become FnF than any Helicopter or other aircraft today
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I cannot think of any justifiable reason to artificially nerf CAS in any air mode beyond things like Grom -1s being used to absolutely abuse the current game mechanics. But given the weapons we are talking about have tiny warheads basically needing a direct hit… Then thats less of an issue.
But if you are concerned about 3x Typhoons with 18x Brimstones each ending matches fast, then why arent you worried about 3x F-15Es with 20x GBU-39s also ending matches fast whcih are already in game.
As it stands, AI kills doing ANY ticket bleed is dependent on the maps objectives. On most maps, AI kills have no impact on match outcome. It is ONLY the EC maps that it does because they have PvE objectives.
So even mentioning them in the context of ARB or ASB is irrelevant.
The question is exclusively GRB, where all issues on missiel count can be mitigated via SP cost.
As for MMW seeker performance… Honestly. I dont see it being all that different to KH-38MT with IOG have been since day 1
i guessed, that all IIR Seekers can do it ^^
I’m sure not only IIR. But IIR have better target selection.