Is it AESA? It doesn’t make sense that they make AESA for their MAWS but took so long to get AESA radar
I thought it was just a regular, smaller PD radar
Modern ECM/RWR can detect many many frequencies too, it won’t go unnoticed (but by then the typhoon itself would have been detected)
That’s why it’s so ridiculous that the Typhoon fleet hasn’t been upgraded to AESA yet.
So the MAWS is actually AESA?
I didn’t say that, but rather that the fact they are producing electronic warfare pods which can detect AESA signals and then subsequently jam them but cannot integrate the AESA into the main aircraft radar is kind of absurd. It’s also the largest Euro-Canard. It certainly should have ample room to integrate an AESA.
I mean it does, they are making CAPTOR-E now
But yeah really weird. Can it really jam AESA though or is it just a manufacturer claim
It is a marketing lie
No, my understanding is that some of the earliest models will not be able to integrate the AESA… at least, not the CAPTOR-E.
Whether it can really do it or not is irrelevant, the statement is there and so if it was integrated into the game I’d expect the capability to be present.
This is almost as absurd as the US Navy not wanting to put AMRAAM’s on the F-14 back in the day, seeing as the only thing they needed by the time the F-14D was in service were the pylons and a software update. I wonder what is preventing them from integrating the CAPTOR-E to early Tranche Eurofighters.
Technically, yea? But that’s because they’re being withdrawn from service, and most nations are ordering/have ordered Tranche 4 airframes to take their place (some are moving ahead and already placing orders on Tranche 5/P4E though, like Germany). I have not heard however that they cannot be equipped with ECRS, though.
I don’t why they’d try to extend the service life of the oldest airframes either when upgrading them to even P3E would take a long ahh time, and cost just as much a new Tranche 3/4 (P3E).
Maybe there are hardware limitations on the earlier eurofighters
I mean if they couldn’t even make a production AESA until very recently, is it that unreasonable to doubt their ability to jam AESA?
They made and tested several but couldn’t secure funding / go ahead to integrate it into fleet vehicles afaik.
US offers upgrade programs for existing fighters and so does Russia, usually far more cost effective for countries that ordered earlier models. For example, look at the F-16A’s in Euro service that saw updates well into the 90s that had them going from air to ground and FOX-2 capabilities to having proper electronic warfare and FOX-3 capabilities for less than the cost of a new fighter.
Eurofighters cost a very pretty penny and I would seriously doubt the upgrades would be more than a new fighter.
@MiG_23M the captor e mk 0 aesa radar was already fully in production since 2015 with kuwait and quatar buying them.
its only the more advanced aeasa radars that werent integrated into euros and required more development etc
I agree it’s weird. I know the reason for the 14D not continuing with the 120 upgrade was because the Navy already decided they were getting rid of the 14 before they even had it. (Don’t agree with the logic but there it was.)
But I don’t understand the delay with the EF.
Fair point, they were still a little late with first prototype in 2007, but research from that would definitely help a jammer
Translated from the german wiki about the MAWS of the EF:
In 1991, GEC-Plessey Avionics was awarded the contract to develop the missile warning systems for the EFA. This also included a test bench for radar frequencies up to 40 GHz, with the option of increasing this to 95 GHz later. A 1994 scientific publication by Elettronica presents radar and EW systems based on MMIC; all systems listed and shown there can be recognized as part of the DASS AESA antennas. The paper also presents an MMIC downconverter for the frequency range of 32–38 GHz. In 1997, it was announced that GEC-Marconi had begun production of phased array antennas in the frequency range of 35–40 GHz for “military radar and communication systems”. In 2005, BAE Systems showed a Ka-band pHEMT MMIC in the 32-38 GHz frequency range in a technology presentation, with reference to seeker and radar applications.
Since GEC-Plessey Avionics, GEC-Marconi, BAE Systems and SELEX Galileo are different names for the same company due to a merger, and no official application of a Ka-band AESA radar from the company is known, it can be concluded with high probability that this was developed and produced for the Eurofighter. Consequently, the missile warning systems will use active phased array Ka-band radar in the 32-38 GHz frequency range to locate and track objects within a sphere around the Typhoon, except directly above and below it. Sources also confirm that millimeter wave radar will be used. In cross-section images of the Eurofighter, it can be seen that the systems in the front wing roots are in two parts. Since Elettronica supplies the transmitters and presented the paper downconverter for the Ka-band, it is likely that the front antennas will use separate transmit and receive modules to operate as FMCW radar. The reason for this is the risk of enemy anti-radar missiles targeting the transmitters, which is why they must have Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) characteristics.
Source: EuroDASS Praetorian – Wikipedia
Much conclusion of extrapolations but no solid evidence sadly…
Expected ranges based on extrapolations for targets with different RCSs can be found in the wiki source.
That’s still a solid 10-15 years late
What is the eurofighter weight now?
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