I think the request for prototype Eurofighters for “lesser performance” is kinda unreasonable. It would require gaijin to do a yak-141 twice, for two different nations which they dont seem very interested in.
And you really have to ask yourself: is it worth it? Do you really want a weird combobulation of a Eurofighter, maybe one patch ahead of a normal one but then having to grind 2 aircraft?
I dont think so. Instead of that we should just get the F-4F ICE and ig a gripen for the UK tree as a stopgap measure until we get a fully functioning Eurofighter(assuming that gaijin wont screw this up)
Su-27 is trash compared to 2000s F-15C & Typhoon.
So it’d be F-15C MSIP II+ with APG-63V1, Typhoon, and Su-30.
Typhoon is just superior to APG-70 F-15Cs.
thing is, gaijin cannot use the “it was planned” because neither the da1 nor the da2 was ever planned to carry live ordnance or radars and the likes. they were for flight tests.
these are all for carriage testing(flight testing). it cannot fire them; it had no radar. they dont even have the DASS suite. these are dummy missiles as indicated by the blue bands
hell, even the DA1 was used for IRIS-T flight tests and they always carried armaams(or amraam shaped things) for testing.
you can actually see how the DASS suite is missing by looking at the wingtip pods. the tips of them would house the rwr components but they’re filled with camera equipment as evident by the seethrough windows on the inside which were probably used to look at the aircraft during testing
My issue with the DA series is the functionality of the entire suite seems less known, and the BR would be service Typhoon BR if it had the countermeasures, engines, airframe, etc to begin with.
So Gaijin might as well ignore them in favor of prepping the service Typhoons for when the BR is ready, in my opinion.
I mean I’d be in favour of the DA airframes being standardized and given to the various nations. Keep enough back they aren’t full F.2’s (incomplete DASS) but enough that they have the RWR/ECR-90/BOL and missiles.
yeeeah but its such a wishy washy thing where it gets hard to argue about certain features. gaijin can just claim that “something” is too powerful and boom gone, whole aircraft ruined.
and what performance values do you use? the production ones?
there is just nothing to base the aircraft on as its purely fiction
I mean the flight performance is largely the same. When all equipped with the EJ200’s.
Then you just hold back the fancy DASS stuff so they just get an RWR and BOL rails.
Missiles you could just stop at AIM-9M/Li and AIM-120B
Radar ECR-90.
Bam one DA aircraft with the various bits an pieces from the other DA airframes. This would give three nations that need them as gap fillers. After which they could just be foldered away behind the F.2/FGR.4 (which ever IT/Ger versions as well). And we’ve made it through what would be many difficult patches for those nations.
The real question is, does gaijin share your enthusiasm with that solution, or do they not actually care that certain nations will have many difficult patches?
Their track record imo, particularly for western nations and britain/germany/italy, points to the later imo…
giving it EJ200s defeats the whole purpose of adding the DAs. the point of getting th DA1/2 was to get the tornado engines for worse performance. when you add the 200s you might aswell just add the block 5; having mws and TD wont make that big of a difference.
