EFs (online) data is based on the prototype with weaker engines and an unpolished airframe, full fuel and a missile load. The requirement, however, was to achieve >29.7° ITR and >20° STR (the prototype exceeded the STR requirement by about 5° from what I remember), currently the EFT manages just about ~23.5° ITR and ~16° STR. So in terms of STR, the EFT should be more than a match, in fact it should perform better once fixed (>1°+).
But, from what Flame and Fireball have told me, the EFs (finished one, not the prototype’s) ITR has been stated to be at least 32°+, STR, as @oppsijustkilledu has already mentioned, should also be higher than the prototype’s.
I think most important problems are Radar performance and random wing snapping.
I tested Viggens radar and it performs much better when it comes to scanning speed and rate, meanwhile CAPTOR-M struggles to see this right in front of it.
Also random wing snappings are so annoying, past couple days my EFT broke its wing so much it made me pull my hairs.
Aaaaand the source for these claims is exactly where.
If this can be trusted. Its actually rafale which is missing 4°/S in sustain and both are doing WELL over 32°/s ITR but thats due to higher WT G limits. If i limit it to 9Gs, they are closer 3° more than aaustrian papers for rafale. If anything EF2000 according to what can be found is overperforming by 2° and rafale underperforming by whopping 4°. If these charts are correct, i dunno. I dont have ingame flown chart at hand.
Blue is rafale
Orange is EF
If anything EF2000 according to what can be found is overperforming by 2° and rafale underperforming by whopping 4°. If these charts are correct, i dunno. I dont have ingame flown at hand.
These graphs are far from accurate and taking them at face value is uh, interesting to say the least.
If you read what i wrote, you would notice that i dont know if they are right and that i dont have on hand STR and ITR of these planes handflown in game. Do you???
Wouldve rathered they reverted the ahistorical buffs to the Rafale and kept PIRATE off the german EFT, but atleast if they go through with this, they couldnt be accused of selective application of their rules.
That being said, I still think this whole Rafale HMD + 8MICA and German EFT PIRATE situation is a can of worm gaijin should never have opened, and very much should be attempting to close, not doubling down on.
Other nations mains are going to start begging for all sorts of prototype equipment, test weapons, and export configs and are going to cite the Rafale and EFT getting said things as justification. Itd be less work for gaijin to just remove the stuff from the Rafale, remove the 9M from the EFT, state they werent operated in X nations service, and deal with the backlash.
The elimination of what makes tech trees and nations unique has always been one of the worst things that has been ongoing in this game over the years, and this certainly doesnt help.
Even then tho, startshark has a disclaimer their charts may have issues and are HEAVILY WIP, and I’ve been told the delta ducks graphs particularly are wonky.
So far I haven’t seen anybody prove its owned by WTD 61, what I have seen is Eurofighter themselves referring to it as an EADS aircraft operated on behalf of the consortium.
I’d be happy to change my view if someone finds something saying its operated or owned by the Luftwaffe, but at least initially all IPA airframes were owned by NETMA.
Given that and the flights were done by Eurofighter/Airbus pilots, it seems there’s no stronger claim to Germany than anyone else.
It bore the 98 squadron tag from the beginning, despite in at least the beginning explicitly being owned by NETMA or Eurofighter.
I believe the BAE aircraft is flagged with an RAF Sqn, its not owned by the RAF.
Either way, you’re asking for an IRST Germany had no part in developing or even financing and fitted a few times for evaluation, with no intent to standardise it, whilst gatekeeping an AMK kit financed by the consortium as a whole and flown by pilots from across the consortium.
My position remains unchanged, give Germany PIRATE, but when the time comes let all the nations have AMK. Otherwise, Germany’s aircraft should reflect their service jet, which is not 98 07.
As I said, I think my position is quite fair and well balanced, let you guys have this feature now which you have a dubious claim to, in exchange for our equally dubious claim. You’re never gonna get a dubious PIRATE with community support, and I’d be happy to support this, if you would stop gatekeeping.
