I don’t know any other planes like this. Have you seen an A-10 make 6 frags per flight? The Su-34 consistently makes 6 frags per flight from a safe distance. It is impossible to hide from his Thunders.
You mean F-16C CAS pilots weren’t good.
Cause KH-38’s seeker is copy-paste of AGM-65 in-game currently.
Warheads are all good on all of them.
So yeah, KH-38 is no upgrade, it just went into more peoples’ hands and Soviets got ONE thing on-par with NATO for once.
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the seeker are for 1 not the same they are only the same in lock range the agm65d dose not have INS 2 the mavs back them did garbage damage, 3 even if the seekers were the same are you gonna pretend like the kh38 isnt twice as fast with 2x the range vs an AA with HALF the range of the pantsir???
the f16s, the rafale, a10s… they all can get over 5 kills on a single run.
Yes…
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Speed only really matters for kill not getting taken by a tank.
Also, what part of they have the same exact range…
Datamines show that all IR AGMs have the same range; likely because the game has a hard 20km limit at this time.
Also the AA with half the range of Pantsir are 10.3: Rolands.
But yeah, my F-16C is still unkillable in ground RB no matter how much you may want that to not be the case.
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the mental gymnastics people will do to just not admit something is broken is crazy to me, 1 yes the pansir dose have twice the range of the adats as the same way it looses effectiveness at 14-16km the adats looses effectiveness at 7-8km. 2 time to target is literaly the second most impartant stat for an agm other than lock range in the game, and yes they have the same lock range but if you read the datamine your brining up 1 has IOG and the other doesn’t making it not the same seeker, like if you think revenge ballance is a good thing and that the su34 should have no counterplay from the ground then just say so, cause your making little to no sense with any of your point here
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@KENO
“Pantsir is OP! No CAS in WT is OP.”
“CAS is OP! SPAA is useless!”
Which one is it?
Your posts gonna keep flipping scripts or are they going to be consistent?
Also, you’re the only one denying CAS being OP now. After agreeing with me that it was OP…
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you dont seem to understand that more than 1 think can be true at the same time yes the pantsir is op compared to what every one else has, eveyone knows that to be true, and iv def never said no cas in wt is op nor am i denying cas being op here either but you can acknowledge all of than and still realize that the su34 vs current AA is a level of op beyond what should be acceptable for the game and that is not the same gap as what it was before
also these 2 things are very different topics cause you can say SPAA is useless because theses topics usualy exculde the pantsir in the first place and are usualy other nations asking for something on par with it
@KENO
You put Su-34, F-16C, Mirage 2000D RMV, Rafale, F-15E/I, Tornado GR4, etc against Pantsir, the SPAA loses every time.
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Funny you say the a10 instead of the f16 or f15e. Just cope
Stealing that
At the moment I only have the A-10A and F-15C open, and also the A-7D and E, but these planes are not even worth mentioning since they are dead.
Alright mister professional if speed of AGM does not matter, I challenge you to go try use this
now go kill Pantsir with it two times with video as prove
then i’ll believe you that speed does not matter.
I admit i can’t use this to kill Pantsir but you seem to confident enough that speed isn’t matter and i like to see you do it.
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I don’t have a problem with the cas aircraft, I have a problem with the KH-38s that were added with the SU-25SM3 release. They could’ve just added the KH-29D which is the IR version. But no they had to add the KH-38s. AGM-65s are good and all but they fly to damn slow compared to the KH-38s (Max Speed Mach 2.2) and are more easy to shoot down due to their speed(Max speed: Mach 0.9, Max release speed: Mach 1.4).
@ARK_BOI
So you claimed you could use that to frag Pantsir then admitted you couldn’t all in one post.
Weird movement of goalposts.
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At this point they should just remove the US and German tech trees
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I can’t but i see you have confidence and claim that speed of AGM doesn’t matter i just want to see you’re telling truth
or that pull it out from the place where the sun don’t shine. so go ahead prove it if you can’t you’re lying.
@ARK_BOI
You see that guidance method? It says “SACLOS”, which is your post moving the goalposts from IR tracked F&F missiles with 20km range to “SACLOS”.
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Shouldn’t matter because i can kill Pantsir with starstreak on AH MK1 thanks to it speed anyone can do that because how fast it is make it possible
But you said speed don’t matter right? so what the problem here? it hard to admit the truth here eh? that speed are matter?