You can disagree but it’s happened.
I’m only for doing it if it makes sense, if the vehicle is just not doing well but could, in real life, use something it could use, then I think it should get it.
If the vehicle is fine, then remove the thing.
You know how the BM otplot was 12.7? Then it was moved to 12.3? How the BMPT was 10.3 and moved to 117? How the T72B3A was 12.3 and moved to 12.0?
If it needs it (which it doesn’t) itll move to 12.3. Its got armour, autoloader, gundepression. Its good for 12.7. Similar to the Lecelec AZUR. Although i may rather move it to 12.3. No less.
But a abrams could easily own the turret of the EMBT? Having better hull armour doesn’t mean much when the thing you can’t hide and that will get you killed is showed to the enemy at all times.
Why are you acting like youve never faced the abrams. Aim below breech? The ENTIRE turret ring? Commanders sight?
I rarely know a nation main that would self sabotage just to keep a round from another nation.
That salty because of no 2A8?
I never said those aren’t things that can’t be hit?
But even if I did, those are weak spots, the entire turret is a weak spot for the EMBT that can even be killed by smaller arms frontally. Give it the tools it needs to be a glass cannon.
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Because it’s not needed lmao. And I personally didn’t want 2a8 anyway lmao
What? The Leclerc turret is paper, it isnt an ariete. It has reasonable armour, obviously not 2A7/122B+ standard but it is still noticable.
Yes, and CR3(TE) too.
Which is a good example to express how I feel the same way about EMBT;
I would prefer CR3TD with a 5 second reload at 12.7, over CR3TD with a 6 second reload at 12.0.
Similarly, I would prefer EMBT at 12.7 with DM53 over EMBT with F1 at 12.3.
I think tanks should be implemented at their maximum potential and then be placed at the BR it belongs in; instead of capping their effectiveness and adjusting their BR according to that.
It is needed if they want to keep it 12.7.
The leclerc turret absolutely is paper.
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I’ve never had an issue going through their turrets. I’ve bounced on abrams but the leclerc has never given me an issue.
I don’t even have France at top tier. I just fight those French bastards.
It’s really not lmao and even then it shouldn’t mean they need to add another nations round because France didn’t develop one lmao.
Dm43 will be fine
Imagine this conversation with american rounds lmao
Same here but with a loadout of KE-W, 3BM60/46 and DM53. Only the DM can confidently pen the leclerc. I have to re think before i fire a 3BM
How is it the pinnacle of the French and German ground tree when its outright worse than the 2A7V and arguably even the 2A6NL?
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They’ll say whatever they want to try add some bs to it lmao
Well, exactly my point xD
With DM53, it would at least be a sidegrade to 2A7V; worse turret armor for better rate of fire. A fair trade-off.
But worse turret armor AND MUCH worse penetration makes it a downgrade rather than a sidegrade.
In it’s current form it’s at most a 12.3 tank.
Than give the German one DM53 and give the French one SHARD with copy paste stats of the DM53.
Like I said, the self sabotage is wild.
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I do agree it should get DM53, but even with that it’d be worse than the 2A7V; a good turret is much more important than a good hull, and the Leclerc’s turret is an atrocity.
At least it would still add some variety for Germany and France if it were to get DM53 or Shard or whatever. It would be especially nice for France.
I feel like 2A6EX is just salty about some random german main reason though.
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It gets real funny when you consider that the EMBT also manages to be worse than the Leclercs.