just be honest Gaijin, we all know it is because The Snail is is lazy and slow. and money is the only thing that that matters to you.
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i still try to figure out why french SA50 is higher than british Firefly.
and how are they unique anyway?
Matilda-76 is unique, Valentine with 20-K would be unique, but basically untouched ones like sherman or M3 Lee?
wish to make it stay that way
Israel used several ones, apar from mentioned by you
And so did Czechoslovakia.
However, both were Lend-Lease.
The North Koreans captured theirs. They used them against vehicles that were nowhere near comparable as peer-to-peer tanks.
Key difference: also do not quote specific parts and act smart. The Entire response is written as 1 single message and is intended to be responded to as one single response. Otherwise, you’re just cherry-picking.
However, unlike Wikipedia, someone has already written that the Israeli Cromwell was a hybrid.
There is already a suggestion for it.
In terms of the M3 Lee.
The Soviets used early iterations like APC"s. If you did not know this, they thought the 75 was for infantry. 37mm->Tanks. From some videos on YouTube that you can find, AP rounds were less and less asked for. When it came to the M3 Lee’s 75mm.
It was only till later M3 Lee models that the Soviets started using them as proper tanks, pissed off that they could no longer use them as some sort of predecessor to the idea of an IFV. Cause almost all the doors and sorts were welded shut.
One last thing: not everything in the game is a visual difference. C&P is not this blind: Everything bad its 3 different categories.
1: The Good.
2: The Bad
3: And the Ugly.
If i remember right, Israel stole them from former british
Cromwell IV Hybrid, Stolen Israeli tank with APCBC-HE rounds - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum
No one was. Its a way to point out specifical parts that i have to say something about and make it easier to understand what i refer to. I had nothing to add further in that message so no need to mark the whole message.
Based on the post, its “hybridity” is that it used much US ammo, which isnt in fact a thing anymore for this game: all QF-75s now have that ammo. At least that is what i got from reading it as there is nothing more special about it.
As russian who visited several museums, i can clearly say M3s were first widely used as proper tanks, but due to low armor and huge proifile were hugely disliked. Then Russians came to the same conclusion as Brits: its garbage tank but great command machine. So as Brits, they reconsidered their usage in front rows of attack, thus less and less need in AP munitions.
Still, that doest really make any difference in if USSR and US M3s are C&P or not in this game.
Same as
that has nothing really to do with if the C&P should get added or not, and if its C&P or not.
Difference is stats, models and visuals. And only visuals are still considered C&P.
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Not gonna disagree. However, I doubt all Soviets used it like a proper tank. Considering that I’m more or less referring to early models. Not later models. Later models, where the doors are welded, your statement and claim are understandable.
However, earlier models are a different case. Gotta remember we human beings see something new and always have a different interpretation of something’s intention. If you have never seen it before, you will likely assume the wrong intentions.
I judge by what information i have, and i`ve yet to have read anything that says USSR used them as APCs. USSR Had M3 Scout Truck so maybe you misunderstood something? We even make model kits of it
Early in war, USSR had very little armored forces left, so the M3s were widelu used as general battle tanks to somehow cower up for the losses.
M3 Lee`s general images plus lost during counterattacks and retreats
Most important one: Major Goluzov and his 4-man crew of the M3 tank. He was commander of 334s tank battalion
Most basic picture is early M3s in a formation of an attack regiment
Those were lost during 1942s counterattacks somwhere in Ukraine (not 100% sure as author himself wasnt)
Same 1942 somwhere in Ukraine - germans captured it after defeating the USSR forces. Based on it being in the open field, it mustve been a tank to tank battle
1943 Vyazma, the M3 is in head of russian column
1942 Kharkiv - Lost during the failed counterattack
All M3 Lees were suited with documentation on Russian language, and had special trials put through, so i doubt they could “think wrongfully”. But change a way to use them during the war? Yes, thus the secondary roles during 1943s operations (not tank-to-tank battle, but the infantry assist operations)
booclets for tank crews of USSR
Go read a website called Tank Archive.
Take what’s written with a grain of salt; however, a lot of the info you have will not tell you whether it was an early or later model.
Better gun
Why? Its same SAP with basically same 200 pen.
I suppose it’s because of the FL10
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French players got upset that Sweden got the Ito when they were added, NASAMS is just a repeat of that lol
they should be thankful for getting it in the first place, the same with the Austrian SK-105
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Should of just added the Austrian one into Germany… Should of let the alpine tree
Old forums and reddit, it’s been how many years since the Ito was added? I’m sure you could probably find a reddit post given the old forums is gone
Also anything will have someone who’s upset with something it’s how this stuff goes
They should be thankful that they got a handed a copy-pasted version of the Crotale under another national flag, that they never used, instead of the vehicle they actually built and tested domestically?
This is certainly one of the takes of all time.
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Tbf iirc this model can’t fully turn the turret correct? I remember talking to some peeps about this a while back wondering why it wasn’t added (more likely gaijin was too lazy to hire someone to model this for France)
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