Besides. If they wanted a quick copy paste fix to this supposed gap they could have just made a late war Brummbär for the regular TT, just saying.
I think Germany only got the M44 and the M55 to avoid the “we used it too!” backlash.
1 Like
On this one I disagree ngl. Germany tried to cart off the 210 to allies because it was a disappointment, Hungary used it much more than Germany.
2 Likes
I think in general a few of the postwar designs might actually end up filling the gap between 6.7 and 7.7/8.0 in fairness, let’s see.
You think Italy was in such a cushy position after the war, brother?
As someone who plays all trees but one and mains Germany, I will never understand people who behave like WT tech trees are football teams. I don’t like this tree, I don’t like that tree… My brother in Christ, this is just an organising principle to regulare your research progress. It’s not an identity or a club.
1 Like
have you any better idea? Having only 6 MBTs in the 10.0-12.7 range isnt good specially when the Merkava Mk.3 variants are the exact same tank the same with the Merkava Mk.4
or the fact the Greece is the biggest operator of the Leopard 2 and most of the Leopard2HEL were build in Greece, dont Greece deserves do get their Leopards or “C&P” is bad?
1 Like
well i don’t know maybe because of :
Spoiler
- Garford-Beute
- Beutepanzer IV
- A7V
- FlakPz I/38(t)
- sIG 33 / Sd.Kfz.221
- Pz. II C
- Sd.Kfz.251/10
- Pz.35(t)
- Pz. III B/E
- Pz.IV C
- Sd.Kfz.222
- Panzerjäger I / Sd.Kfz.
- Pz.II C (DAK)
- Sd.Kfz.234/1
- Pz.38(t) A
- Pz. III F
- Pz. II C/F
- Sd.Kfz. 6/2
- Marder III / StuG III
- Nb.Fz.
- Sd.Kfz.234/3
- Pz.38(t) F/n.A.
- Pz.III J
- Pz.IV E/F
- Sd.Kfz.140/1
- P204(f) KwK 38
- P204(f) KwK 39/1
- Pz.III J1
- Pz.IV F2/G
- Sd.Kfz.251/21
- Marder / StuG
- 15 cm Pz.W.42
- Pz.Sfl.Ic
- Sd.Kfz.234/2
- Pz.III L/M
- Pz.IV H/J
- Hummel
- Pz.III J1 TD
- Sd.Kfz.251/22
- Max/Emil
- StuG III G
- Pz.III N
- Sd.Kfz.234/2 TD
- Sd.Kfz.234/2 “Biene”
- 8.8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.
- Tiger H1
- VK 3002 (M)
- Ostwind / Wirbelwind
- Nashorn / Waffenträger
- Panther D
- Ostwind II
- Jagdpanzer IV/38(t)
- Panzer IV/70(V)
- Pz.Bef.Wg.IV J
- KV-IB
- Pz.Kpfw. Churchill
- Sd.Kfz.234/4
- T 34 747 (f)
- VK 45.01 (P)
- Brummbär
- VFW
- Panzer IV/70(A)
- KW I C 756 (f)
- Panther A/G/F
- Zerstörer 45
- Jagdpanther / JPz 4-5
- leKPz M41
- Tiger II
- Kugelblitz
- Ferdinand / Jagdtiger
- Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P
- Ersatz M10
- 38 cm Sturmmörser
- Flakpanzer 341
- Bfw. Jagdpanther G1
- SPz 12-3 LGS
- Elefant
- Tiger II (Sla.16)
- Panther II
- Tiger II (10.5 cm KwK)
- Ru 251
- Marder A1
- Leopard I
- Wiesel 1A4
- PzH 2000
- Marder A3 / DF105
- Luchs A2
- Raketenautomat
- E-100
- CLOVIS
- Maus
- Turm III
- TAM
- M48A2 G A2
- Leopard A1A1 / 1A5
- Gepard
- Rak Jpz 2 (HOT)
- TAM 2IP
- VT1-2
- Begleitpanzer 57
- KPz-70 / M48 Super
- Ozelot / Gepard 1A2
- Jaguar 2
- Leopard A1A1 (L/44)
- Class 3 (P)
- φ T-72M1
- C2A1
- R400
- R Kpfw 90 / TAM 2C
- Leopard 2K
Wiesel 1A2 - Boxer MGS
- Leopard 2AV
- Puma / Puma VJTF
- sWaTrglnf
- Vilkas
- PT-16 / T14 mod.
- Puma u14
- FlaRakRad
- Leopard 2PSO
- IRIS-T SLM
- Leopard 2A7V
playing Germany just for the Leopards and Tigers is your problem, me personally i don’t care about German top tier i am 9.7 and i only want the Rad and the Leopard 2K after them i dont care about the TT, Germany will and shouldn’t never have the Leopards exclusively in their TT, they sold them in more than 20 countries its their own fault
2 Likes
What are also unique idk to Greece
1 Like
You realize Germany has some of the most options for top tier mbts lmao we aren’t in any way lacking unique options.
You understand the Italian 1a2 is worse. German 1a2s were fitted with stabilizer and other stuff
We rarely used french or Italian tanks, we used a few trainers from french or Italian origin that’s all
1 Like
Both aren’t unique to Germany lol they were captured from Russia and gb
ops forgot to remove them
Didn’t the Garford get MG08s in place of the original machine guns? (Not a huge difference but technically not a 1 to 1 copy)
1 Like
You can also add a Belgian ship given to Germany
italy was in a far better scenario germany was still paying off german debts from WW1 and was cut into pieces italy got off very light cause they swapped sides mid war germanys economy was in the gutter for the following years
![[TMP] "French tanks in German service at Normandy" Topic](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/74/41/6d7441af0614215d6b0d164ce284fbf9.jpg)
hundreds of french S35s where used by germany
https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=112&art_id=244
heres the list of italian tanks in german service
3 Likes
that would untrue that would go to america or russia since they have so many of them copy pasted
germany has 4 toptier tanks 2a5 2a6 2a7 2a5 PSO
america has M1A1 M1A1 HC M1A2 M1A2 SEP V2 V3 SEP V2 TROPHY
Captured. And they shouldn’t come in their base state we modified them alot
I said there’s options. Not that we have them in game
America also have 4 12.7s so idk why you listed 11.7s and 12.0s
cause there 12.7s have roughly same armor as the base model M1A1 and perform just as well at toptier
And yet it’s not a top tier tank it’s a 12.0.
same armor better mobility only thing that makes the orginal SEP V2 12.7 is the upgraded optics but that matters very little before the V3 and TROPHY the best the M1A1 HC was consider one of the TOP 5 best M1 abrams
correct me if im wrong, but i think the late war variant used a completely different build, so i think it wouldve been harder to do then the hummel, which is literally a nashorn with a different gun.
however i agree that it would be a cool tech tree addition since it would give people who dont wanna pay for the brummbär or missed out on the sturmtiger event a similar experience that they could otherwise not have.
(also kinda waiting for gaijin to add a regular rangefinder modifikation to all artillery vehicles above 3.0 so actual new players who arent very good at estimating ranges get to enjoy them and the really precise shots you have to do most of the time)