You say that, but Japan just got an Indonesian Leopard 2. So clearly on the cards.
Japan for a leopard 2 because it’s part of Indonesia and their military… And it’s also a unique 2a4 modification currently since they didn’t add the respecting kit to Germany.
And Singapore isn’t a sub tree of anyone
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Great stuff. Kudos. Completely agree.
If not Singapore, then Greek Leopard 2’s to Isreal. Not to mention Cypriot T-80’s.
Gotta “love” copy-paste and gameplay diveristy.
Well, I kinda did just that. Of course, there is still stuff that could be added, but it’s good enough for now. 3 nations 100% still have stuff, and 2 of them have everything but one controversial vehicle(more so than even the MBTs).
Of course, I’m pro-“C&P”/ have been pushing for Canada to get a home in the UK if not a new tree, either by itself or with ANZACs (now unlikely-impossible with the Aussies now a UK sub-nation(also pushes the UK sub-nation more likely out of the two)), so these two ranks look very appealing to me.
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Hungary was the main user of the plane, it isn’t just “for no reason”
Italy was the main user of 1A2 variant and built the most, no wonder it’s got one. Although Germany can get one as well, even if their would be just A1A1 copy gamewise.
Germany has G.91R/3 actually, which Italy could also get and G.91R/4 + 2 SM.79 are seized in the German TT still)
Germany also takes the best Hunter and Sea Hawk from GB, at least MiG-19S and MiG-23BN from USSR, Dutch ship from France and M48A2C from USA.
I have similar feelings about Germany ;)
This meme never gets old:
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no one in germany really wanted swizterland unless they wanted copy slop they added little value to the tree really only added to fill out a gap that wasnt really even a gap cause the germans have SU17s
1 jet vs at least 10-12 german aircraft in italy at many different tiers
by that logic why doesnt germany have P26/40 they where the primary user
Only 21 P40s were finished by September 1943 and during the armistice it served in the defence of Rome. The Germans ordered production to continue after the armistice and appropriated completed tanks to the Southern Tank Training Battalion, 10th and 15th Police Panzer Companies, and the 24th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Karstjäger.[4] The Southern Tank Training Battalion trained units to use captured Italian tanks and had five P40s in their inventory. The 10th Police Panzer Company served in Russia before redeployment to northern Italy in late 1944 for anti-partisan duties with the 15th Police Panzer Company.[8] Formed in summer of 1944, the 24th Waffen Mountain Division was deployed to Trieste and Udine along the Adriatic coast. While retreating towards Austria in March 1945, they lost several P40 tanks to Shermans of the British 6th Armoured Division. About a hundred P40s were used by the German military, of which about 40 were without engines and used as static emplacements at defensive positions such as the Gustav and Gothic Lines.[8]
I wouldn’t mind really, don’t care much.
Yeah, now count the amount of Soviet and American planes in the German TT, would rather have an empty one?
Actually Switzerland can bring a lot of unique designs (has already started to), that’s very unfortunate it’s been chosen to be German subtree though, which barely has place to accomodate thier designs in the ground tech tree.
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its almost like they where forced to after the war couldnt make there own plane for years after it wasnt a option
Besides. If they wanted a quick copy paste fix to this supposed gap they could have just made a late war Brummbär for the regular TT, just saying.
I think Germany only got the M44 and the M55 to avoid the “we used it too!” backlash.
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On this one I disagree ngl. Germany tried to cart off the 210 to allies because it was a disappointment, Hungary used it much more than Germany.
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I think in general a few of the postwar designs might actually end up filling the gap between 6.7 and 7.7/8.0 in fairness, let’s see.
You think Italy was in such a cushy position after the war, brother?
As someone who plays all trees but one and mains Germany, I will never understand people who behave like WT tech trees are football teams. I don’t like this tree, I don’t like that tree… My brother in Christ, this is just an organising principle to regulare your research progress. It’s not an identity or a club.
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have you any better idea? Having only 6 MBTs in the 10.0-12.7 range isnt good specially when the Merkava Mk.3 variants are the exact same tank the same with the Merkava Mk.4
or the fact the Greece is the biggest operator of the Leopard 2 and most of the Leopard2HEL were build in Greece, dont Greece deserves do get their Leopards or “C&P” is bad?
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well i don’t know maybe because of :
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- Garford-Beute
- Beutepanzer IV
- A7V
- FlakPz I/38(t)
- sIG 33 / Sd.Kfz.221
- Pz. II C
- Sd.Kfz.251/10
- Pz.35(t)
- Pz. III B/E
- Pz.IV C
- Sd.Kfz.222
- Panzerjäger I / Sd.Kfz.
- Pz.II C (DAK)
- Sd.Kfz.234/1
- Pz.38(t) A
- Pz. III F
- Pz. II C/F
- Sd.Kfz. 6/2
- Marder III / StuG III
- Nb.Fz.
- Sd.Kfz.234/3
- Pz.38(t) F/n.A.
- Pz.III J
- Pz.IV E/F
- Sd.Kfz.140/1
- P204(f) KwK 38
- P204(f) KwK 39/1
- Pz.III J1
- Pz.IV F2/G
- Sd.Kfz.251/21
- Marder / StuG
- 15 cm Pz.W.42
- Pz.Sfl.Ic
- Sd.Kfz.234/2
- Pz.III L/M
- Pz.IV H/J
- Hummel
- Pz.III J1 TD
- Sd.Kfz.251/22
- Max/Emil
- StuG III G
- Pz.III N
- Sd.Kfz.234/2 TD
- Sd.Kfz.234/2 “Biene”
- 8.8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.
- Tiger H1
- VK 3002 (M)
- Ostwind / Wirbelwind
- Nashorn / Waffenträger
- Panther D
- Ostwind II
- Jagdpanzer IV/38(t)
- Panzer IV/70(V)
- Pz.Bef.Wg.IV J
- KV-IB
- Pz.Kpfw. Churchill
- Sd.Kfz.234/4
- T 34 747 (f)
- VK 45.01 (P)
- Brummbär
- VFW
- Panzer IV/70(A)
- KW I C 756 (f)
- Panther A/G/F
- Zerstörer 45
- Jagdpanther / JPz 4-5
- leKPz M41
- Tiger II
- Kugelblitz
- Ferdinand / Jagdtiger
- Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P
- Ersatz M10
- 38 cm Sturmmörser
- Flakpanzer 341
- Bfw. Jagdpanther G1
- SPz 12-3 LGS
- Elefant
- Tiger II (Sla.16)
- Panther II
- Tiger II (10.5 cm KwK)
- Ru 251
- Marder A1
- Leopard I
- Wiesel 1A4
- PzH 2000
- Marder A3 / DF105
- Luchs A2
- Raketenautomat
- E-100
- CLOVIS
- Maus
- Turm III
- TAM
- M48A2 G A2
- Leopard A1A1 / 1A5
- Gepard
- Rak Jpz 2 (HOT)
- TAM 2IP
- VT1-2
- Begleitpanzer 57
- KPz-70 / M48 Super
- Ozelot / Gepard 1A2
- Jaguar 2
- Leopard A1A1 (L/44)
- Class 3 (P)
- φ T-72M1
- C2A1
- R400
- R Kpfw 90 / TAM 2C
- Leopard 2K
Wiesel 1A2 - Boxer MGS
- Leopard 2AV
- Puma / Puma VJTF
- sWaTrglnf
- Vilkas
- PT-16 / T14 mod.
- Puma u14
- FlaRakRad
- Leopard 2PSO
- IRIS-T SLM
- Leopard 2A7V
playing Germany just for the Leopards and Tigers is your problem, me personally i don’t care about German top tier i am 9.7 and i only want the Rad and the Leopard 2K after them i dont care about the TT, Germany will and shouldn’t never have the Leopards exclusively in their TT, they sold them in more than 20 countries its their own fault
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What are also unique idk to Greece
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You realize Germany has some of the most options for top tier mbts lmao we aren’t in any way lacking unique options.
You understand the Italian 1a2 is worse. German 1a2s were fitted with stabilizer and other stuff
We rarely used french or Italian tanks, we used a few trainers from french or Italian origin that’s all
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Both aren’t unique to Germany lol they were captured from Russia and gb
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ops forgot to remove them
Didn’t the Garford get MG08s in place of the original machine guns? (Not a huge difference but technically not a 1 to 1 copy)
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