Duplicate Vehicles: Why We Add Them

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the R2Y2s.

Now if they could ONLY do the same thing with the Ho-Ris (except actually REMOVE them and not ‘let players who own it have it’), then 6.3 - 7.3 would actually be a bit more playable.

MMOs rely on the illusion of ownership. They will never remove content from people who got it, because it would be a massive disincentive to any kind of future grind.

That said, while I’m not against some copy paste in general, I still find the speculative Ho-Ri to be a lot more interesting than a sixth M24/M44, just like I find the Tiger II 105 and the Panther II much more interesting than the M48A2 that supposedly replaced them…

slopthunder at it’s best

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Ofc they replaced the tiger 2… It was ass plus Germany couldn’t develop their own tank until the late 50s-60s and america gave Germany like 1000 m48s

Go find a replacement for the HO RI and they wouldn’t get removed

alot of words for: we have to drip feed you reused content or else there will be nothing left

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also i am surprised that they haven’t given a tech tree M47

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I was talking about how Gaijin used a copy paste addition (the German M48) as a supposed replacement in-game for the entirely fake Tiger II 105. This has nothing to do with the real Tiger IIs in real life or in the game (where they are much better than their real world counterparts).

I’m talking about copy paste in the game. Dunno what you’re talking about.

To be fair the most anticipated replacement for the BR was the Type 99. There isn’t really a tank that plays exactly like Ho-Ri, that was the whole reason they made it up in the first place, same as the removed German tanks.

Maybe adding a real Ho-Ri instead could help, but we didn’t see the real Panther II either, so maybe just one or two 7.0-7.7 tanks would eventually be added alongside removing the fake Ho-Ri from the techtree.

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The m48 and tiger 2 105 weren’t the same br and wasn’t a replacement

I personally don’t think the Ho-Ris should be removed, and I think the three removed German tanks should return. Though I wouldn’t mind if they gave them new turrets and a new 3D model.

There’s simply not gonna be a 1:1 replacement for them in gameplay terms. Even BR wise it’s problematic. Germany is one of the largest trees in the game and still after 6.7 you have to wait 7.7 for half a lineup and even higher for fuller lineups. The gap the three fake tanks were brought in for is still there, unsolved.

I see the benefits of copypaste and also its downsides. But while the Type 99 is cool… To me a Ho-Ri will always be a more intriguing experience to try out than playing one more SPH now that they’re a dime a dozen in every tree.

Because they added that fuck Ass Premium instead of in the tree

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Of course they were not at the same BR. But the M48 was absolutely presented by Gaijin as the thing that would take its place in the TT, just like the Ostwind II was supposed to be the replacement for the Coelian even though it was at a lower BR.

Yea definitely not lmao only one could realistically return being the flakpanzer 341

There are actually real tanks that could fill that gap lmao it’s not something only the 105 tiger could fix

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Ostwind 2 makes no sense as a addition since that’s arguably even faker then 341 also btw the flakpanzer 341 replacement was Kugelblitz

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Agree to disagree. I don’t want to go too in depth on my reasoning because this thread is not about “fake vehicles” and I don’t want to stray off topic. But to me this is one situation where I wish copy paste would take a backseat.

I agree.

Meh. What are you gonna put in, the Leo prototype with the 90mm? That would likely be 7.3 like the Ru, so it would still lack a lineup unless you’re willing to buy two premiums, one of which is an American tank (the M47). A Swiss Centurion through the subtree? That’s likely to be 7.7 like the later British Cents, and would definitely give that lineup a hand, but it’s still copypaste and it’s still not gonna fill the gap in between.

What else is there? There isn’t enough information about the Indienpanzer. There’s nothing built in metal from late WW2 that can be added to this BR range, with the exception perhaps of a Tiger II “late” and a Jagdtiger Sla, which are unlikely to be higher than 6.7 unless you arbitrarily give them some 7.0 factors.

if Germany gets back their paper vehicles why not other nations get their own paper vechicles? its going to start and endless cycle, no more paper vehicles should be added or return

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Germany has on copy and paste anti airs tho??? Apart from later in the tree with the Stella and osa

Quite literally yes lmao there’s about 2 Leopard 1 Protoypes and then a tech tree m47 or simply a m48 with the m47s gun (yes that’s real) and then maybe a second prototype of the ru251 the sp1C and the ru222 to end it. With some honorable mentions being the m41 with the 90mm unclear on what 90 and the m41 GTI. There we go off the top of my head I’ve made a full lineup by using mostly domestic vehicles or German modifications of them to suit that 7.0-7.7 gap