Assuming it wasn’t destroyed, but we know it was.
indeed so all that was either shot full of holes via grenades inside, or burnt when the ammo was struck depending if the lodged to ammo door open or not, so there truly is nothing of actual use on the M1A1SA-UKRs left on them
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Am I clueless? really.
Cause there is footage of US Personnel with large vehicles, and trains driving rows of Abrams Tanks that have been mothballed for 3 decades, going to a factory to be stripped of more components that are classified.
Before they were sent to that said conflict. Germany did the same thing, and so did several other countries that have a mothballed inventory of equipment. That went to the said conflict.
So, while technically speaking, they have an Abrams, it is no longer combat operational and realistically would make little to no sense to add to the soviet tech tree.
When the vehicle itself would be nothing but a production equivalent of an XM-1. Aka a glass cannon.
They still used incredibly advanced systems fym. Yes ofc america isn’t just handing over their most advanced fcs of the sep v3 or whatever they were fitted or modernized with v1/v2 internals that were dumbed down
to my knowledge, the M1A1s were upgraded as time went on, first the HAs (first gen DU armor), then the HCs (second gen DU), the Ds (upgraded electronics on par with M1A2 SEP 1s only 2 battalions had them though), the AIM V1 brought the FLIRs, and thermals for the .50 (some of these were donated to Ukraine), AIM v2s and base SAs (third gen DU but is swapped out with heavy composites), however this does not guarantee that the base was the older M1A1s, although some were upgraded, others were produced with that version as a base standard
Indeed. Not exactly what I was implying, but you got the idea of what I meant, unlike Leo,
its amazing what even a small amount of background research can do
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Indeed.
My god, what has this comment section become?? Did Ya’ll really start bickering about politics and semantics here? Do you think the mods will take this seriously after seeing these 2 guys going at it for like 2 straight days?
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Major is a subjective word good thing the words such as followed by a definition for it follows suite my friend.
I will add in a subjective standard because there is going to be a standard on what copy paste is as its not referring to the literal computer function but rather a slang term for two things nearly identical or having little change between them, a usage of slang that exist even outside of the War thunder community but is prevalent in its meaning within the war thunder community and one that you act ignorant of, in order to try and make yourself seem right.
They aren’t really making new models they are taking the old model slapping it into the 3d designer and either adding new camo’s to it or making a slight visually change on the vehicle if they even get that treatment, both of those make it the same vehicle.
My post does not at any point insinuate that the Leclerc and Abrams would be the same as they have different reload speeds, different reload mechanisms, different crew count, different firepower and survivability and far different models from each other.
Alvis if your entire argument every time this gets brought up is to just act ignorant of what the vast majority of the community considers to be a copy paste vehicle and what that term means within the community itself, and instead relegate to its literally meaning of hitting two keyboard shortcut functions then you are just arguing in bad faith and are desperately grasping at straws to prevent yourself from being wrong, instead of just admitting the game has an issue with copy pasting vehicles.
Leopard 2A4
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the fast that they have allowed a youtuber test drive them is so funny
Missing most of its armor packages. Is a Polish tank in terms of the German Variant, meaning parts for it were supplemented and replaced by Polish ones. Also around 32->35 years of age.
M2A2 ODS-SA Operation Desert Storm, Situational Awareness.
A 36-year-old Light tank.
still they have capture dozens of Leos 2A4, bradleys and they are operational, and if gaijin ever gives them to russia i will delete the game, and i am a Russian main that has done the 100% of the Russian ground TT (except the new T-90, i am not doing it until it gets foldered)
A “Dozens” okie bud. Whatever you say. Only 80 tanks were sent. So Couple “Dozens”
dozens in total, Abrams, Leopards 2, 1A5, Bradles etc
Not having HMD is a big loss for the F14B I don’t have the D, but Ive test flown it a few times I do agree with its almost identical gameplay and reskinned airframe, but the radar and HMD give it a way better advantage at its BR than the F14B.
Its not missing any armour tho … Its a 2a4 unless you mean the skirts
Genuinely wtf are you on about there? Its a 2A4 without its side skirts… What missing armour are you talking about
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nither f14 have hmd in game or even irl it did test it early when the agile 95 was in testing but after that from what i know they never attempted to put another hmd in it