This post isn’t going to age well I don’t think; I’m surprised it was cleared to be released honestly. This reads like a grocery list of excuses for not investing time and resources into interesting unique vehicles, premium or other. We all know that premiums are put into the game to generate revenue and why not copy paste when the profit margin is so sweet. I’m disappointed at the mindset that this post seems to be displaying, if Gaijin really feels this way I don’t have much hope for the upcoming years.
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not really, because they have F-15EX Eagle II which is a step up from F-15SG anyways and can be added in future.
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These comments are sad from the community.
Apart from all the unrelated nonsense being said. I think a lot of the fatigue comes from the strange decision making going on from Gaijin. Adding a Thai SB2C as a battlepass reward for Japan with already a few 3.7 CAS. M44s and M55s to every nation because they were missing a arty that probably didn’t need to be a M44/M55. Even the P-51C was a Battlepass vehicle a little too frequently.
Top tier Air and Ground are so stagnant that the community receives far more unique vehicles from the major 3 Nations than any smaller nations. Choosing duplicate Leo 2a4s for smaller nations should probably be a last resort that way Gaijin could try to find a more homegrown smaller nation vehicle. I’m sure France and Italy were creative enough to develop an alternative choice?
This also ties in with deciding to do a Leo 1 for France. The new Belgian Leo has an interesting look, but it plays like any other leo 1. I’ve seen discussions about the Leopard 1A5BE MEXAS and Belgium using a different round. Giving it a different ordinance keeps the identity of the BENILUX focus for France without making it a side clone of German equipment.
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I hear you but I’ve playing too long to know when I’m being gas lighted. This game is the same as it was when I started playing back in 2014. The only changes are slightly better graphics and a few more maps and alot more vehicles. The gameplay is the same. I could care less about copy / paste vehicles.
Stona, you said “We want to keep adding vehicles to every nation for years and years to come, and hypothetically if we could add all of those remaining unique vehicles right now, there would be nothing left for the future, or forever, potentially.”
That statement is WHY were are in this position today. You’re lazy. Point blank period.
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The issue is not communication. It is policy.
Players are not angry because Gaijin failed to explain duplicate vehicles clearly enough. Players are angry because the explanation confirms the problem.
Gaijin’s post admits that duplicate vehicles dilute national identity. It admits that unique vehicles are being rationed for the future. It admits that the studio wants to give every nation something every update. Put those points together and the logic is obvious. The release cadence creates pressure to add vehicles even when meaningful additions are not ready, and duplicate vehicles are the easiest way to satisfy that pressure.
That is not a natural limitation. That is a business choice.
The claim that duplicates do not replace unique vehicles is also too convenient. Development time, update space, player attention, premium slots, and balance work are all finite. A duplicate may be faster to make than a new vehicle, but it still consumes resources and still becomes the content players receive instead of something more meaningful. If Gaijin wants players to believe otherwise, it needs to show numbers, not reassurance.
The premium argument is even weaker. The complaint is not simply that premiums are not unique. The complaint is that expensive top rank premiums are being sold as major content while often being minor variants or familiar platforms. Saying “we do not want unique capability locked behind premiums” does not answer the value problem. It only reframes the complaint into a version Gaijin would rather answer.
The post also treats lineup gaps like unavoidable facts, when Gaijin controls the battle rating system, progression structure, vehicle placement, and update priorities. If a tree has gaps, those gaps are partly the result of Gaijin’s own design decisions. Using those gaps to justify repeated copy paste content does not solve the underlying issue. It normalizes it.
The clearest problem is that the post offers no measurable commitment. No limit on duplicates. No standard for when a clone is acceptable. No timeline for promised unique vehicles. No ratio between unique additions and filler. No change to the “something every nation every update” philosophy that causes this in the first place.
So the response should be simple:
We understand the rationale. We reject the policy.
Better explanations will not fix low value content. If Gaijin wants trust, it needs to reduce the dependency on duplicates, stop using premiums as expensive filler, publish clear standards for copy paste additions, and accept that some updates should have fewer vehicles if the alternative is hollow content.
Players are not confused. They are disagreeing.
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100% agree.
The other issue with duplicate vehicles in minor trees is allowing minor trees to collect the best available vehicle from major trees that don’t get that benefit. There should be restrictions on what vehicles are added, even if they would be part of a sub tree.
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Don’t add them. It makes nations too similar. Asymmetricality is a good thing.
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Absolutely.
Given the game modes haven’t really evolved much in the past decade, part of the fun is playing to your nation and your enemy’s nation’s strengths and weaknesses.
I know that in lower tier matches where trees feel more unique, the team comps often impact my decisions on how I start a match. Putting F-16, M-109, M44, Leopard 2, Leopard 1 etc in every tree takes away that strategic layer to the game that added a nice bit of additional depth
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You were literally just asking for Switzerland for France… What would make that issue even worse
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Once again, this update is about nothing. As always there is nothing good. Once again, the real problems are ignored, and once again I hear the same stupid excuses.
Gaijin created these problems themselves, and now they’re trying to fix them by creating even more problems. The biggest issue is the small maps and the same old game mode. At this point, War Thunder is basically CS:GO with tanks and planes. Because of that, everything has to be perfectly balanced so that, god forbid, one side is stronger than the other. There’s no need to fill every gap with copy-paste vehicles. What’s the point of having different nations if you can play with same thing in every tech tree?
God forbid grinding the tech tree becomes too easy, because then people might stop buying premium tanks and planes. And looking at the prices is honestly crazy—€80 for a bunch of pixels. The funniest part is that they said they don’t want people reaching top tier with premium vehicles, yet they keep selling them. Even worse, unique vehicles are locked behind a paywall. It looks like making money is more important than having any conscience.
There’s nothing they do better than constantly making empty promises and continuing to lie just to make more money.
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Several things:
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You’re referencing a discussion that started because I said that it would be nice for France to get Franco-Swiss Vehicles, so no a Leopard is not part of that count
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Switzerland fielded and co-developed more than just the leopard 2 (they fielded and co-developed more French planes and AFVs than they did German)
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Switzerland fielded fewer Leopards than BeNeLux did, so no, even if the trees were swapped your math is wrong
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As is the core of a good portion of this entire 900+ comment post, just because copy-paste (or near copy-paste) can be updated does not mean that it should
You’re tilting at windmills here
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This post really feels like backpedalling especially for the bit about the M44, you say that you put the M44 and M55 into the German tree so that you could focus on working on the Hummel but there are so many other WW2 German SPGs that could have fit the spots for the M44 like the Grille or the Waspe.
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They didn’t. Idk why you got this idea the Leopard 2 development was purely German.
Switzerland developed so many vehicles for Germany idk what you mean. They developed nothing for France
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Another 2 billion Leopard 2 to every nations tree but with different flags in background
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Does kinda come with the whole most exported modern tank (of western origin)
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honestly I think ctrl+v vehicle should be limited to captured vehicle and not export, thats what makes it unique, if we add every export vehicle to every tech tree we will have the entire United Nations member countries in War Thunder.
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The biggest problem is simply copy paste vehicles that come as Premium, accessible even to the most inept players, who leave after one death and ruin the match quality. The same goes for pointless Premium CAS spamming
There should be another blog post about current bug reporting system and how certain reports get completely disregarded while others get accepted without even looking twice at it.
How will gaijin handle adding even more modern vehicles for which there is even less available information and even greater document restriction.
Thoses don’t even belong in the game unless they are modfied in some way or another it’s just boring. Wow Russia america gb and everyone else should get a panther tiger king tiger panzer 4 and whatever else because they were captured
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