Japan is kinda stuck as the vast majority of its vehicles have been implemented so it’s somewhat understandable that they’re going this route. Japan, Israel and Sweden are arguably the nations that actually needs subtree as their own pool of vehicles are drying up. But that doesn’t justify the mass duplication of vehicles in those subtrees though.
I’m still pretty salty about Oplot going to China not gonna lie. Trial vehicles like it or the Swedish T80/Apache/Mi-28 should simply not be added to the game in my opinion, [especially when the Oplot the Pakistani tested wasn’t even in this configuration…](disregard the part in the brackets, I was wrong)
Way to make the Thai subtree immediately less appealing by needlessly copy pasting it to another tree for no good reasons.
The Oplot they tested was in this configuration, but it was never meant to be adopted like this. It was only the available test vehicle that was used as the basis for the Oplot-P, a unique variant of the Oplot developed and built for Pakistan. This is what should’ve been added instead if the tank we got.
Yeah, with premium and even vehicles people want unique stuff when THEY can get it, but then get upset when they miss an even and other people have unique stuff they don’t, the F-14D I think was a double blow as the initial plan was to remove a bunch of iconic weapon systems to keep it’s BR down (like USA premium players wont manage that on their own).
The strangest one though is the F-101C Voodoo situation right now… An interesting unique vehicle IN THE TT and there are multiple threads complaining about it, and there isn’t even any thing brocen or bugged, they are just upset that it’s not some Frankenstein hybrid of the B an C models with both missiles and guns (guns that where removed to fit the missiles btw). If I was Gaijin seeing that I would defiantly be “well if thats how you feel about it… copy paste it is”
The VT4 is already in Chinas Tree same as VT4A1. Both are utter garbage and Gaijin isn’t even giving them their ERA at the Side. Imagine them adding in a T-Series Tank for USSR without its ERA at the Side.
Thats literally every Nations Community. And CN is probably the last Nation Gaijin is catering too especially when compared to USA/USSR/Germany who get handheld like Crazy and still are the ones crying the loudest when they already not just get the best but also always the first ones to get Stuff whereas others, including China btw, often just get Slop and have to wait years just to get basic Stuff which isn’t even an question for main three to get from the get-go. Like if you only knew how garbage and how much missing Chinas Vehicles are…
The problem with the VT4 was an way more complicated issue and is like the one single only time Gaijin listened to the complaints of Chinas Playerbase and all of a sudden they are now apparently having an China-bias. Wonder what you would say if Gaijin added the Oplot to USSR Tree…
Why do you have to research Israel if you want to play Greece? That makes much much less sense than having to research US to get a US export vehicle in your Greek tree.
Domestic vehicles you can just research in the Greek tree? We’re talking about export vehicles originating from another major nation… You know, the copy-paste stuff this forum topic and post was actually about (duplicate vehicles)
In my opinion, Greek SHOULD get a home (its own tree!!!). Currently, it does not have a home.
I’m not advocating to remove minor nations (!!!). The complete opposite. There should be dozens of minor nations and they should get their own trees. Currently you can’t even have dozens and dozens of minor nations because where would you ‘house’ them?
Almost everyone plays a major nation. So that provides a convenient ‘side-entry’ into minor nations trees. In my opinion, if you already have an F-4 phantom research, it should be a small additional research to get the skins and be able to play these vehicles you already researched into minor nations trees. NOT the full 400k RP or even a full tree research
I have an USA F-4E
Now I want to play Greek F-4E
I need to grind months and months for this? And even grind Israel, a nation I have no interest in?
Just to get a different vehicle skin and flag in battle? (because thats what it basically IS).
That’s just BS.
not to mention we also put some of the first if not the first laser guided bombs onto phantoms (it was a mk117 demolition bomb with a early form of guidance kit, yet we are still stuck with a early F-4E and no F-4D/F-4G in sight, such an iconic aircraft yet stuck with the bare bones versions even though it was operated in the US and upgraded to use LGBs and have the camera in the wing similar too the kurnass 2000
If your goal is to avoid locking unique or historically important vehicles behind a premium paywall, how do you explain the situation with the French battleship Jean Bart? It is the very last French battleship, an iconic and deeply historical ship, yet it’s a nerf’d premium costing €80. Meanwhile, the Clemenceau, a ship of the same class that was never even finished, is researchable in the tech tree. This decision completely contradicts your stated philosophy of reserving historical pillars for the main tree…
Unique Premium are the absolute last this Game needs.
Premiums should always ever only be Copy-Paste or Exports/Prototypes (only if the TT doesn’t need them) - like the VT4 should have been Premium for China and ZTZ96B in TT (or the VT2 literally the Export Variant of it) but now we have an unique Vehicle used by the PLA itself…locked behind a Paywall.
