Figures, it’s French
Now now, don’t be to hard on the Soviets/Imperial Russia tree, everyone is missing ships found in other trees.
Obvious one is of course the Revenge class Dreadnought, but others are as follows:
• Wickes class Destroyer, USA, found as the Town class (1940) Destroyer HMS Montgomery G95.
• Pillau class cruiser, IR, found as SMS Elbing, could be both in the Russian tree & the Italian tree.
• Regele Ferdinand class Destroyer, ITA, found as Letuchiy.
• K class Sloop, Dutch, K-2, possible options K-1 or postwar Hr.Ms Van Speijk.
• YMS-1 Class Minesweeper, USA, found as JDS Ujishima MSC-655 (surprised it didn’t come this update).
• Artevelde, Bel, found as Lorelei.
An a few more I forget at this time.
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You are a smart cookie aren’t you.
If the devs had not planned to add a french premium they would not have bothered to model it either way.
The only reason the AMX30-super was added to the game was solely to add a premium to a nation that lacked it, ie france, not Germany. But instead of making a well known vehicle, they did what they always do for France, they add the most obscure variant they can think of. They could have modeled a C2 or one of the other proposed stabilized AMX30, but they went with that one.
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Again its not a french tank. It shouldn’t of been in the consideration it was German
A return to accurate modeling.
A little less focus game gimmic balancing, there used to be a reason why you would play with tactics and methods back up until the M1, etc became top tier.
Map fixes - no not to hamper spawn campers, etc. ACTUAL map fixes to broken textures and missaligned hitboxes.
Revert some of the nerfs that has been made to update relevancy of some vehicles. For example the HSTVL and F4 II, J39, etc as these has not been de-nerfed / reverted as other competitors were released.
Remember that we, the OG fanbase, played the game and was religious to the game for a reason. It only changed when the economy was going to be made worse and then everything snowballed into complaints that require posts like this.
Better late than never I guess, we have asked for this 2 to 3 years ago.
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Agreed on that. They should not have added the super. But because they added the super to France instead of Germany, when Germany already had the leopard 1 premium, doesn’t justify not giving France their iconic 105 turret when they have it to Germany
So how do you plan to explain Japan’s F-16AJ and the Divine Coffin?
According to your logic, you could easily fill that spot with well-founded “skin-swapped” vehicles instead of fabricating them out of thin air.
If the F-16AJ and the Divine Coffin truly have a legitimate place in the game, then when are Germany’s three classic Tier 7.0 vehicles going to return?
Germany has been severely lacking decent tanks in the 7.0–7.3 tier range, resulting in extremely low win rates—so low that hardly anyone plays at this tier anymore.
After all this time, surely you haven’t overlooked this issue?
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See, the problem is this assumes that there are no other options besides copy-paste which is a false statement. There are literally hundreds of unimplemented suggestions for unique and historically significant vehicles.
You can’t really argue that, for example, not one but two copy-paste cosmetic premium M1A1 HCs is necessary where the M1A1HA, AIM v1 and v2, M1A1D, M1 TTB, M1A1FEP, Thumper, CATTB, M1A2S, R, or K are not in game. And this is not a unique situation, all cosmetic premiums have better options, even sometimes they replaced those better options with the more unique vehicle being removed from sale shortly after the introduction of the cosmetic tank!
You say that the point of cosmetic vehicles is to not deny a spot for a unique vehicle later. But if that’s the case, why are these unique vehicles not in the game at all? Why are unique vehicle premiums routinely made unavailable, even happeningright now? Why are unique and historically significant vehicles locked behind events instead of those events being reserved for less significant vehicles? Why are vehicles so often mash-ups if multiple configurations and not representative of any actual specific variant? Why are these cosmetic vehicles almost exclusively top tier while there are still gaping holes at lower tiers? And of course there’s the reality there’s the situation that the tree has limited space so it’s not like every vehicle ever could even fit in the regular research progression even with folders due to the soft limit set on the amount of vehicles per rank per line.
I’d say it’s as simple as this: historically significant vehicles should typically be TT. Prototypes or less historically significant counterparts to a TT vehicle should typically be premium or squadron. Highly unconventional vehicles or less historically significant counterparts to existing premiums should be event/bp/etc. Cosmetic vehicles should only be added in the case of say am Ace’s aircraft and even then that’s a last resort and uncommon occurrence. But definitely not having 80$ cosmetic vehicles be nearly half of every update!
And subtrees should be added according to close alliances and not just geographic proximity, and they should include all the vehicles operated by that nation (to the same extent as a main tree), not just a handful of “meta” ones.
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Literally nothing in the tech tree only premiums
the balance issue,the foolish business decision,the deception towards players,the lack of expansion and optimization of the game’s core gameplay and so on.
All of these are killing the game a little by little.
I am fine woth duplicate vehichles. They have their place in the game. What I’m not fine tho is grinding the modifications for the very same vehichle all over again. It is soulkilling. I would like to suggest to implement in some kind of discount at least on the modifications of duplicate vehichles, once you actually spaded them in an another tree. That would be a great quality of life improvement.
Or a home tree mechanic… the duplicate vehichles unlock in all other trees as soon as you unlocked it in it’s original techtree. Otherwise you have to grind it the same as now.
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Unfortunately the bandwagon of a “content creator” and the referencing of it in this blog tells us that we should be ready to see more irreplacable vehicles as premiums.
In an update that most premiums are unique, (Pucara, F-14D, Orao, Fw-189) and the best French ship premium, Gaijin gets critisicized for the copy paste ones. Legit close the forums at this point. Clickbaiters at social media gets more attention to their comments
They are. US m60 and UK centurions offer you essentially same gameplay. And they are not low tier. Israel begins at rank 4 and has corresponding research and module prices.
We can also have a look on planes. And its beyond low tier as well. Shahak, Kurnass - high tier copies of mirage 3c and f4e respectively. Only unique thing is ayit cause it gets actually unique kit at 10.0 - 3 agm65, 2 agm62, 2 agm12 - all on same platform at just 10.0. And kurnass 2000 with py3 / agm65d combo at 11.7. Oh and saar or whatever that mystere thing is. It has ccip for bombs, fr*nch doesnt have access to such kosher feature
Rafale M F3-R: Excuse me
funny thing it only exists for naval in that sense, for ground and air its only for events
Rafale M F3-R is as close to a comestic copy paste as it gets. Aside from a bigger nose landing gear and different cmos, it is absolutely identical to the C in game. Heck, the report for its increased weight was even rejected
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What??? Israeli Magach and Shot are not the same specially the Magach with the American M48/60
Yea but the modern one aren’t the same they are almost completely with Israeli systems
Lists the differences
“Identical”
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It’s absolutely ridiculous. You still haven’t added the D-type armor for the Leopard 2 PSO, yet the Japanese Leopard 2 RI gets its armor implemented arbitrarily without any rigorous theoretical verification.
If you’re so keen on adding duplicate vehicles, why not add a duplicate Leopard 2 RI to the German tech tree? It’s plainly because you have no intention of giving the German line a well-performing Leopard 2.
There’s no d tech hulls for any of the leopards they are all B tech or C tech