I don’t think it will be. Because that has got to be the most retarded idea I’ve ever heard…
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Let’s be honest here, the purpose of premium vehicles is for Gaijin to make money. Accelerating the grind is the carrot they hold up with the horrible grind as the stick.
Personally, if people install WT, kick off at level 1, and immediately go and buy a premium because their favorite Youtuber goes wild on how incredibly good it is, that’s bad for the entire game. Not bad for Gaijin’s bottom line, but bad for the game. It’s a teammate that is useless, and will remain useless for quite a while.
Gating higher tier premiums behind having achieved some ranks in the normal tech tree doesn’t seem like a terrible idea; because realistically, you don’t need a 10.3 premium to grind anything under 6.0 - in fact you’d be better off getting a rank-appropriate premium because you’d do better in it.
So the point of the topic is to discuss what options there would be that Gaijin might potentially possibly maybe at some point be interested in pursuing - of course the chances of it actually happening are somewhere between 0 and the Planck constant, but we can dream.
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This is not under suggestion section, and I doubt that most participants discussing in any significant topic in the main discussion page will read through all 100+ postings.
The issue is, that you didn’t ever read through the initial post.
I read over everything you posted in the beginning and the two options you listed. From the beginning of the thread, I would have indicated that I disagree with the proposed solution since I believe it will be extremely difficult for new players, at least from my perspective.
To begin with, grinding to the top tier takes a long time. By the time a new player grinds to the top tier from ground zero (as described by your option 1), what is the point of even purchasing a premium at that point? Second, option 2, with regards to allowing new players to buy higher-tier premiums but not allowing them to participate in PvP battles, sounds truly horrible. Someone is spending money to buy a premium where they are unable to join a single match; my guess is that individual will request a refund almost immediately.
This is a nice stramwen. And a nice fail.
now, the issue with what you say is, that:
1, you can get to top tier just by grinding in many tech trees, just by grinding 2 lines. This is how i got to rank 7 in the british tree. Then, the player can buy a top tier premium, to grind out the rest (and bigger part) of the TT.
2, as of in edit 1, after this top rank TT tank is in your hangar, you could buy any, and all premiums in any other tree, with the same military branch (so if you have a top rank tank, then you will have the ability to buy an permium tank, but not ship, or planes).
As of edit 2, there would be no restrictions, but an ability, for experienced players to only match up against other experienced players, without hawing to worry about them getting matched up with 13 wallet warrior wehraboos who bough a top tier premium after playing 2 matches at reserve tier.
This gives me the impression that you are aiming to “restrict” the gameplay options of others since they are compromising or counterproductive to the larger team. If such “restrictions” exist, then they should apply to practically all other similar activities, such as content creators taking one vehicle in an entire lineup into a match or players taking low-tier vehicles into top-tier battles for meme purposes.
Those players are usually very good players. They are capable of doing more than a large part of their teammates.
And even they are doing more for their team, than these wallet warriors.
Regardless, both these activities are not common, and even if you see them, there is just one of them in the team, or in the entire match, while there are usually at least a couple of wallet warriors at top tier.
After seals, it is even worse, to the point, of each team haveing 1-3 capable players, while all the rest are noobs who bought a high tier premium.
Top tier vs low tier and people buy verhicles they like of course. Leopard and M1 are popular verhicles in game and irl do.
Sure, but if you want to buy them because you like them, you better get up there in the real tech tree first… but I guess that goes against the current norm of instant gratification :D
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Or maybe it comes from “I dont want to play this useless crap and waste my time”?
The idea is forcing players to grind verhicles without using prem verhicles/account is difficult and you said rank 3 is obtainable depend the nations because not every nation has equal verhicles to grind out. You said 10h to 20h = 80% victory requirement without using boosters and enough sl to buy the verhicles.
Reach rank 3 needs :
3 vehicules of rank 1 (since you do have at least 2 reserve tanks+the premium vehicule of rank 1 given at arrival in the game) → around 20 battles to have those
6 battles of rank 2 → about 40 battles to have those
= you are now allowed to use a premium over rank 4
A battle is about 15min
→ 60 battles/4 quarters of hours → 15 hours
Not that hard to say that 10 to 20 hours is necessary,… and you can still reduce it by buying a rank 3 or 4 at that time, if you think you’re good enough to
I also forgot the premium vehicule of Rank 1 given to new players → so you do have 3 vehicule when you start to grind.
I can give it a go, without any premium → i never tried Chinese TT
Also Silverlions to have such tanks is pretty damn low as you start with 200k Sl
→ so NO,… i’m not making it impossible to do,…
(I also use the startegy of many competitive games today, not allowing you to enter Rank modes until you have done a number of normal games → this kinda similar to it)
EDIT: to OP–> you better choose a system like mine, which is far more fair for anyone than the 2 options you gave us,…
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Huh no,…
And yes → trollsquad issues should be looked at and limited, as followed, within a squad:
- Rank 8 can’t be matched with vehicules under Rank 5
- Rank 7 can’t be matched with vehicules under Rank 4
- Rank 6 can’t be matched with vehicules under Rank 3
- Rank 5 can’t be matched with vehicules under Rank 2
Why?
By simple exemple of World reality:
When USA uses F-22 or F-35, the Gabonese Airforce only have access to old Mirage F.1’s refitted with new systems when possible
→ they’re not using Biplanes or WWII equipments
Trollsquad is currently so anachronical that it destroys my immersion in the game, and Realism of the game.
All rewards based on BR/level can be reworked aswell → not hard to do.
Which CC is not a good player?
Forget your point !!!
The One-Spawner problem is discussions now for years. And it won’t change. People can buy tanks at any BR, if the have any other tanks or not. So get use to it.
Pretty much half of them,i would say, as a “good player” definition is really depending on anyone,…
For exemple, many people thinks that Mikegoesboom or Phlydaily are really good players when most of the time they show only the good moments, and/or, they show some “specific” and “unreliable” ways of playing
Best exemple would be to fly low with some aircraft with bombs and force a head-on to kill the guy with said bombs right after he got behind you? (Phly did that)
There is also the fact that most of those CC are used as Advertisment, therefore they try to hype you for some vehicules → telling you thing you wanna hear, when in reality it’s a bit different.
Same when i hear from some CC
→ Mirage 4000 is a nice addition
→ F-15A is a beast to be reckonned for every fights
Those are 2 different ways to say the same “it’s a good aircraft” but in the way to lead you to one of those (F-15A in this case)
I’m not gonna push it more forward as it could give gaijin ideas to break partnerships with some of them (and i don’t wanna get someone business in trouble)
But don’t say that CC people are usually good players because that’s not true.
Good player - gets at least 2 or more K/D with most of the tanks (i dont play air or naval, so ikd about the situation there).
Phly and the Mike guy pretty much satisfy that criteria.
So please, tell me who are the bad CCs?
I haven’t watched phly in about a year, but he plays very passively and tends not to do objectives. I stopped watching him specifically because his content was falling into a pattern of w-keying to a goblin hole, side shotting about 5 tanks while talking about random things, and ending the video. I like watching Nukenus, Hunter, and Spookston nowadays.
I also stopped watching him for a few years now. Idk why, i guess his videos were not entertaining. But he still knows how to play well. Doing what you described is still more to the vicotry than what these wallet warriors do.