Does Leopard pzbtl 123 really suck?

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Skill issue mate
Armor wise it has extremely strong turret armor for the BR, and its gun is more than capable. 410mm of pen at 0m is extremely doable, even at higher BRs. It has amazing mobility, a LRF, Thermals, Smoke, even a camo net for crying out loud. This is a user error, it’s a great tank that you’re playing wrong.

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2a4s are fine at their br

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Honestly, and I say this with genuine respect, this is almost certainly a you issue, not a tank issue.

2A4 is just universally solid in every scenario & map. It may not be ‘best’ at any one particular thing, but it’s also not worst at any one particular thing. It’s just a perfectly serviceable, jack of all trades type vehicle for it’s BR range.

What do you hope to find by switching to Russia?. Awful reverse speeds, Longer reload, worse gun depression etc. The grass is not always greener on the other side.

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Mid-class in every way, firepower, armour, and mobility
And some will find it capable in everything, a flawless tank
Some else will find it being One shot by 3bm42, Cannot believe in DM23 to pen & to afterpen, Cannot compete reload speed due to crew, Cannot reach somewhere further with that bit of mobility advantage (if any, against NATO enemies)

I don’t believe in this machine anyways

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tanks on your account are max 3 era. You played 7 games in this premium leo on GAB, 7 deaths and only 2 frags. On RB 2 games 2 deaths 0 frag.
Intellectual vegetable is always welcome in this game. You definitely bought too little, we encourage you to buy all the most expensive premium packages, a guarantee of good fun
I don’t even feel sorry for you.

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How does it has a “mid-class” mobility?

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Bro’s never tried driving forward in a Challenger, or backwards in a T-72, and it really shows lol.

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It’s one of the best premium bro, the one that sucks is the TURMS-T lol

The 2nd best 10.7 MBT doesn’t suffer, in fact it is above average in essentially every way. The reason it may not seem above the meta is because it is the meta

Leopard 2A4 is the best 10.7 in the game.

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The strongest 10.7 MBT overall to me

The 2A4 is hands down the best 10.7 MBT for the overall balance of characteristics.

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10.0+ is where most people grind out tress with premiums, it’s a completely different game up there, very sweaty. New players will be absolutely crushed.

Leo 123 is probably the best 10.x premium. Russian tanks are probably more new player friendly, in terms of being a bit stronger in terms of passive survivability through armor, but imo they kinda suck ass compared to nato tanks for what I think is the meta which is sitting behind a hill/object, abusing 3rd person camera and peeking shooting reversing.

Try abrams and wheels. Huge difference.

Bought the OES and… that one actually feels similar at his br, since the extra speed on leo2s ain’t taking him to any better spots in out tiny map lol

The abrams doesnt really have a better mobility they are pretty much on par with each other, and in no way shape or form a leopard 2 feels similar to the OES which btw it is horrendously slow

Try how smooth Abrams can do

Slow but enough

what are you even saying? the leopard 2 can do just as well as the m1, they are pretty similar overall, the mayor difference is that the leopard has a better round while having a worse reload and a slightly worse protection, but the mobility is pretty much the same.

I disagree with what others are saying, before br decompression 9.3 was suffering, now is the 10.3-10.7 that is suffering mainly because costant uptiers against Fujis and others. It’s a huge target and the armor can be easily defeated by anything, bmp2m with tandem atgms, other 2a4s, arietes p, fujis, ram segol, T-90 and T-80u, even 9.3s amx 30 super and leopard1a5 can one shot you and 3bm42 of course…yeah it’s not fun. I honestly regret getting the christian 2, I tought it was going to be a blast even without a lineup purely based on my experience fighting it, but i was wrong, before br decompression maybe when it was constantly bullying 9.3 , but now is another story. Not worth it, especially if you don’t have a lineup. I honestly have a better time with the T-80ud than with the leopard, being a small target is really an underappreciated plus. People who think the 2a4 is still super good need to bring up to date their knowledge. I completely changed my mind on the leopard after playing it, and I only played it after the br changes.

They’re just comparing 2a4 to the OTHER 10.7s as is fair, and when you do that the 2A4 is the best 10.7. Ask for decompression.