Does Leopard pzbtl 123 really suck?

It is still super good tho

It gets ass pounded by Fuji’s and click baits, so no super good anymore, it should either receive dm33 or go back to 10.3

Nah, it can handle uptiers fine since the ammo still works well and the tank still has god tier soft stats. It’s still far better equipped than literally any other 10.7 at being uptiered.

The BEST 10.7 should receive a buff?

The BEST 10.7 should go down in BR?

Same goes for most 10.7s.

Or give it dm-33, dm-23 can’t even reliable pen the type 90, and if you screw up, you’re done, 4 second reload. Not fun especially when you face those things every match, there are a couple of posts about this issue already, so I’m not the only one who noticed.

So what are we going to do with the dozens of 10.7s that are just worse than the 2a4 as it stands? Why would the 2A4 get special treatment?

yeah, it can

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Despite not showing up on analysis, you can also just shoot the giant breach and take out the gun too

Yeah the kvt is screwed also, it should receive a better round

This would warrant a BR bump to 11.0, and then 2A4 has a lot scarier things to worry about in a full uptier than a Fuji.

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Ok, what about the dozens of other tanks at 10.7 that are worse than the 2a4 and m1 kvt?

Like what

Every single tank in WT is massively outclassed by, and struggles against, things a full BR above themselves.

You can’t compare 2A4 against 11.7’s because obviously 2A4 will be worse.

Fighting 2A4’s in a 9.7 is every bit as grim as fighting 11.7’s in a 2A4.

You re wrong imo, Merkava mk2d vs leopard 2a4 is not the same thing as 2a4 vs click baits and Fuji’s, I’m not saying the tank is bad but come on, it’s just unfair, what is the leopard gonna do against a 4 second reload or a 600mm of pen? Especially since the thing can be lolpenned by 9.3 rounds? Same goes for the kvt

For example, Ariete? Vickers MBT? T-80B?

Yeah, but at least it gets a better round if I’m not mistaken, T-80b could easily be 10.3 lol

Ok? That somehow makes up for it being just a worse leo 2a4 in every other regard? You realize the round it uses is the DM33 round you’re suggesting the far better 2a4 get at the same BR? You want to eliminate the only reason the ariete exists. I also updated my comment earlier to include a few more examples

Ok it’s a 10.7 issue not a leopard issue I’m not saying the 2a4 is the only one that suffers holy hell

Then why are you suggesting the 2a4 uniquely be buffed with better ammo? You are CLEARLY asking for only 2a4 buffs…

Dude because the post is about the leopard

Idk bro. I found fighting the 2A4 hordes in Merk2D to be legitimately miserable.

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Do you think you can suggest changes like buffing the best 10.7 without considering any other context about the BR?