Discussion on ZTZ99A model errors in game

oh i agree on basically everything else, the tank is implementd wrong. im still skeptical on the reload rate tho.

This is a section of the Thai manual which states that the maximum possible reload rate is 9 rounds per minute. Divide 60 by 9 and you get around 6.7 seconds of reload time.


Here is the section where it states this.

Also, ignoring the firepower aspect of the ZTZ99A, there are still many missing features or inaccuracies such as the complete lack of spall liners (it is hilarious that an early 2000s PLZ-05 will get them while newer Chinese MBTs don’t), and there are many photos that show the existence of spall liners in tanks such as Al-Khalid, VT-4, and ZTZ99A. The base armor of the tank is completely incorrect and combined with explosive reactive armor the hull should provide up to 800mm of protection against kinetic penetrators.


Ingame the tank is missing around 100mm of protection in the hull section, as it is only around 700mm.

Not to mention that there is the strange armor gap in the bottom area of the turret. That is not where the turret ring is, and there is no reason why the composite armor should not extend down there. Then there are even more neglectful issues such as the left armor cheek of the 99A’s turret being somehow less in protection compared to the right one. There is nothing that can explain that either.

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armor without era in ztz99a must be 700-800mm

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Al-Khalid also have spall liners?

All chinese top tier tanks and pred top tier must have it

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More buff for my favourite Chinese Tank then, nice.

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Players: Get the CN MBTs a buff (while showing evidence of vehicle manufacturing and maneuvers)

Gaijin: Passed to consid- Not a bug

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Gaijin: Oh you want buff for your Chinese Tanks, here have some ‘‘not bug’’ answer comrade :D

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That’s typical Gaijin arrogance towards Chinese players and/or Chinese mains

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Yeah they tend to do this to minor nations as well,not surprised.

Not only China is deliberately targeted, France and Italy suffer the same issue (although to a lesser degree)

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Yeah my Leclerc’s suffers from similiar issue, at least France got really good cas option and helicopter.

Top tier ifv would be nice tho.

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Being honest I think people should remember this is the same administration from before COVID.

Recently this year, they fixed an error with the KV-85, Su-152, etc, where it was missing 26.7% of its top speed. (34 → 43 km/h)

It’s not national, gaijin is just acting as always. This is ‘balance’ and minimal effort.

“Balance”
So when we try to get Gaijin to introduce new and better APFSDS round, they delete both the topic on this forum and the issue, citing an excuse that it is “classified information” when it is 100% not. I think that asking for a better APFSDS round for the 99A considering its current state is reasonable.

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Balance is in quotes on purpose.

Life is finally smiling more at me and I could make an effort to afford Al-Khalid soon to grind China, as I intended;

However, I am taken aback from seeing that Gaijin didn’t fix most issues regarding Chinese MBTs, or ZTZ-99A at that.

They are all still missing spall liners, the geometries of 99A were fixed but the armor effectiveness still has somehow not improved, and the rest of the tanks weren’t even touched at all.

Even Al-Khalid itself, a 70 buck tank, still doesn’t have its spall liners, visible on photographs which have been used (in vain) on bug reports.

So… yeah, I’m hesitant because of this, hahah.

That didnt stopped us grinding Britian and France Avenger, i’d say go for it.

Despite lacking Spall Liners and wrong armor geometry on hull Al-Khalid is amazing, im in love with that tank and i cant wait to get my hands on VT-4A1, Hopefully Gaijin adds more Vt-4 versions so i can play with them instead of ZTZ-99’s.

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Hahahah, this is true.

This certainly sounds tempting!

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The thing I find the funniest is that Gaijin is almost implementing these features selectively. The fact that Gaijin is adding spall liners for PLZ05, which means they are aware that China does use spall liners for their vehicles, and it being a 2000s era vehicle at that, so there are no technical bottlenecks that would apply for vehicles like ZTZ99A or VT-4.

There are a ton of images that show clear spall liner cladding in at least the turret sections of the vehicle, whether it be the sides or the roof. For example, this is an image of the VT-5 export tank’s turret and you can see it quite clearly. Unfortunately, Gaijin does not accept images as evidence.

99A is using a different type but you can still see the folds of the material coming loose. 99A even has the spall liner above the ammo carousel.


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I remember they accepted it. it’s just gaijin is lazy about fixing existing vehicles, if they had enough information, they can do it, if information is submitted in dev server, it’s also possible but harder, but in live server, it’s very hard to make gaijin change

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