Discussion on ZTZ99A model errors in game

Balance is in quotes on purpose.

Life is finally smiling more at me and I could make an effort to afford Al-Khalid soon to grind China, as I intended;

However, I am taken aback from seeing that Gaijin didn’t fix most issues regarding Chinese MBTs, or ZTZ-99A at that.

They are all still missing spall liners, the geometries of 99A were fixed but the armor effectiveness still has somehow not improved, and the rest of the tanks weren’t even touched at all.

Even Al-Khalid itself, a 70 buck tank, still doesn’t have its spall liners, visible on photographs which have been used (in vain) on bug reports.

So… yeah, I’m hesitant because of this, hahah.

That didnt stopped us grinding Britian and France Avenger, i’d say go for it.

Despite lacking Spall Liners and wrong armor geometry on hull Al-Khalid is amazing, im in love with that tank and i cant wait to get my hands on VT-4A1, Hopefully Gaijin adds more Vt-4 versions so i can play with them instead of ZTZ-99’s.

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Hahahah, this is true.

This certainly sounds tempting!

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The thing I find the funniest is that Gaijin is almost implementing these features selectively. The fact that Gaijin is adding spall liners for PLZ05, which means they are aware that China does use spall liners for their vehicles, and it being a 2000s era vehicle at that, so there are no technical bottlenecks that would apply for vehicles like ZTZ99A or VT-4.

There are a ton of images that show clear spall liner cladding in at least the turret sections of the vehicle, whether it be the sides or the roof. For example, this is an image of the VT-5 export tank’s turret and you can see it quite clearly. Unfortunately, Gaijin does not accept images as evidence.

99A is using a different type but you can still see the folds of the material coming loose. 99A even has the spall liner above the ammo carousel.


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I remember they accepted it. it’s just gaijin is lazy about fixing existing vehicles, if they had enough information, they can do it, if information is submitted in dev server, it’s also possible but harder, but in live server, it’s very hard to make gaijin change

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If you are aiming to obtain the top MBT in China, then there is no need for that.
ZTZ99A and VT4A1 perform extremely poorly. Even worse than M1A1 gift pack and T80UE1 gift pack.
The two 12.0 vehicles are worse than the 11.7 vehicles. Only has a competitiveness of 11.3.
The lowest penetration power, the slowest loading time. And huge weaknesses. Immediately explode after being hit, with no ability to struggle.
Let’s take a look at the T80BVM and Leo A7 series again. These are the real 12.0 vehicles.
99A and VT4 have neither authenticity nor balance. pure gaijin deformed fictional product.

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Funnily enough, ZTZ99-III if it had a reverse gear would be better than 99A right now.

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Yes, smaller, similar forward speed, same rounds, same armour profile, the only thing would be the exposed top of turret which can be shot through by even 40mm APHEs.

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I would argue original ZTZ99 actually has smaller weakspots than 99A and VT-4. Only in War Thunder is the predecessor vehicle a lot better than the newer one.

So i think we need to demand the fix of chinese top tier because it’s really sad, tank are extremely poor compared to another tanks

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No armour no reload rate no dart no side era no JD-3 no spall liners

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Im really sad i grinded chinese tech tree two years ago i was happy yeah ztz99a had a lot mistakes but it had really nice frontal armour before the “FIX” of model when gaijin just nerfed his armour to level of t-80 without arguments, its just stupid how modern tank can have armour like 70s soviet mbt gaijins thinks maybe that chinese engineers can only copy and paste or idk, first country in GDP makes shit tanks with composite from 70s mbts its just stupid.

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dude I feel you

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Same here

The real thing China needs is an 11.3 Squadron vehicle to lure in a bunch of noobs and crash high tier winrates. Nothing is going to change with the ZTZ-99A and VT-4a1 before that happens since China’s high tier winrates are too high.

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Now that I think about it, you aren’t entirely wrong.
Nigerian VT-4 squadron vehicle.

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Calling it, Pakistani T-80UD.

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I said this to the French players, all u need is a premium to crash ur no.1 winrate and Gaijin might just be forced to change sth.

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Even if done in that way, Gaijin staff will most likely leave the bugs there and refuse the requested issues

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