Discussion of Potential Finnish and Swedish ground vehicles

Though have you ever seen a KV with just the frontal turret armor?

Not that I can remember, although judging by the unusual thickness I guess this example is an unstandard field modification of sorts.

Yeah, additionally its rare to see KV’s with the roof mounted mg (this one just has the mount)

All the more surprising to me that Gaijin decided to grant one to the Finnish KV-1A, I wonder if the Soviet version will receive the same.

I already asked Smin why the KV-1A has it and his response was because it can. Makes me wonder if the soviet model will be lacking one so they have a slight difference

Also the in the video for it it fights a panther F like what? Makes me worried my prediction of it being 5.0 is true

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I suspect it will be like the Hungarian Tiger situation; albeit photos prove that at least one Tiger in Hungarian service had the applique track armor, I don’t believe the same can be said for the MG on the Klimi.

I will still hold out for a 4.7 BR, but at this point you might be correct about 5.0 unfortunately.

If it is 5.0 like ive been so upset about considering if its 4.7 its more than likely gonna be food. Same with a full uptier and even worse at 4.7 you dont get a lineup. At 5.0 it has a lineup but its trash and not worth using.

Im hoping to make a suggestion for our mystery KV since its unique and would actually fit around 3.7 though its no KV-1B replacement

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Ill forgive gaijin if we dont get the KV-1B if we get the KV-2 instead


Soldiers beat the machine guns with iron rods until they were bent and couldn’t fire after the vehicle had gotten stuck. Eventually the comabt engineer placed a 30kg satchel charge on the back of the turret.

Hey if sweden can get a tiger 2 in the same condition finland can get a atomized KV-2

/s

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Don’t forget about the armored variant
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Wouldn’t make a big difference but a small boost to survival is better than none

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Still no examples with only the extra turret armor, but I stumbled across a post with more images of this modification. The author claims they are 75mm plates installed on vehicles produced at the Leningrad Kirov Plant in St. Petersburg. Wouldn’t be all too suprising as Soviet factories in WW2 were known to produce their own individual deviations and subtypes of specific model tanks.
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Yeah thanks, though the biggest problem im gonna have if the history of the vehicle it really isnt a whole lot which is the biggest reason i cant see it being accepted

https://www.jaegerplatoon.net/TANKS7.htm

Only place ive seen which mentions the photo outside of a few other sites featuring the photographers other photos by Military official A. Viitasalo.

It isn’t in Finnish archives by chance?

Mm not entirely sure, my finnish is to put it bluntly quite shit lol. Thought the biggest clues we have is the date, the company who dealt with the vehicle, and the photos of it.

KV-1 knocked out by 26th (Antitank) Gun Company in 5th of September 1941 in Aleksandrovka in Carelian Isthmus. Captured 45-mm antitank-guns used by the Gun Company proved ineffective against this tank, but satchel charge broke its track and allowed Finnish Army to capture the tank. Series of archive photographs shows that by the time the tank was photographed its track had been repaired, but the tank was also equipped with demolition charge in case of counter attack. Since the tank never made into Finnish inventory, it was probably blown up. Photographed by Military official A. Viitasalo.

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SA Kuva seems to have the photos, but nothing that isn’t already known, however, I found a livejournal post with more information and photos that I believe you may find useful.

Too much to put in a post here so I will just link it.

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That definitely is our mystery tank but now the question comes down to why repair the tank only to destroy it? Seems like they may have tried repairing the track to potentially get it to move then only realized something else was wrong and decided to destroy it? Seems odd but this is the most insight ive seen on it.

Indeed it is a conundrum, and the livejournal author seems unknowledgable of the reasons behind this. They suggest that it could’ve simply been for propaganda, or to prevent the Russians from immediately putting it back into service if it was ever recaptured.
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The tow cables indicate there was an active attempt to capture it, so it may have been damaged once that plan was deamed unfeasible.

I assume it must’ve been damaged more than they suspected. That or the vehicle brought it to move it were unable. Regardless it seems kinda wastful to go through the effort of fixing the track without checking the rest of the vehicle out and to see if the satchel had broken something else.

I suppose our two sources contrast then. Yours presumably claims that attempts to tow the tank happened after the track was destroyed via the satchel charge and subsequently repaired. The livejournal I provided claims the opposite, that the satchel was detonated after attempts to tow it failed.