Yeah but python 5 still doesn’t have the greatest range even though it doesn’t have thrust vectoring. Anyone have p5 brochure in hand? It probably has max range, and I’d bet it’s less than 45km
45km for ir missile is very long
Irist has 25km
Python 5 max range is classified we only know its more then 20km and can do bvr like ammram
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Missile range without launch conditions listed can and should be taken with one wheelbarrow worth of salt, given how widely those can vary.
If ground launched Derby ER is rated “40km”, while the same Derby ER is rated 100km in air launch, subsonic and medium altitude head on scenario, you could do some mental gymnastics about Python 5 ranges
ASRAAM has 30+km.
MICA IR has 65km range.
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Asraam is 50+km afaik, second longest ranged ir missile after mica ir, then it’s r74m2 then probably pl10.
Uh… Yeah… America totally doesn’t exist, nor does Korea.
Not to mention the -229 powered F-16s in Korea, Singapore, Pakistan, Poland, Greece, America, Iraq, Egypt, and Morocco.
Both the -229 and -129 are quoted for a flat 29k lbf for their IPE standards. Both the -229[D/F/H] and -129[D/E/G] push 29500 after trim. If you want to specifically compare a -129E to any PW, the -229F would be its analogue with the same thrust.
1989 called, the standard production F-15E has 29k lbf.
doesnt the f-16v in taiwans air force have the 229?
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No, the F-16V Block 70 for Taiwan has the GE-129
Block 70s have GE-129s
Block 72s have PW-229s
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I just remember reading somewhere that the mlus they have were suppose to be upgraded to the 229
No Taiwanese aircraft operates with GE engines, that was a very stringent rule of their 2 contracts, as their operating conditions required the reliability of -220s (lol).
As of now, they operate A-72s with -220Es.
arent they getting new build F-16’s?
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Nope, as of now they’ve contracted Viper conversion suites for their A-20s. Same engines, new radar and ECM / comms.
Only way you’d be able to tell is by a peep in the cockpit… In which I’ve never personally seen a ROCAF F-16 nor can I find any imagery with good enough reproduction to discern any changes.
very odd
That’s interesting and very weird…
I guess it kinda makes sense since I imagine the Block 20s have PW-220s as well, so maintenance can be somewhat standardized across Block 70s and Block 20 MLUs.
This would be a similar reason for why the F-15EX was pitched to Poland with PW-229s, since they operate F-16C/D Block 52+'s.
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Block 70s would in no world use -220s, though. Their only option is the F110-129, as unlike the -220/-229, it’s directly interchangeable with the F110-100. Any aircraft going to Viper standard that doesn’t already have a -229 would need a massive overhaul to introduce PW’s IPE, as unlike GE’s IPE it has multiple accessories that were entirely overhauled.
Makes sense in Taiwan’s case,
Exactly, also as to why Korea is ditching the F110s given in the F-15Ks in favor of -229s.
Issue with Taiwan’s upgrades and why they can’t simply swap over is because of their very specific requests for upgraders.
One place where this is kinda weird though is the F-15IA. As far as I’m aware they’re going to have GE-129s instead of PW-229s, so I’d be curious if that gets changed in the near future.
Pretty much every Advanced Eagle has GE-129s, unlike the initial 1:1 contract the USAF went for full GE integration… Issue is, quite a few nations are turning back to PW due to reliability concerns.
What was PW’s motto again? “Dependable engines”?
And what was GE’s? Something about washing machines, right?
I’d personally say, with a rather biased stance, that countries are swapping to PW because the logo’s sick.
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Hello everyone,
It took me some time to motivate myself to play a few matches so I could post here in the forum. I’m quite concerned about the introduction of the Sufa. I don’t see why the aircraft should be rated at 14.0. In general, I find what’s happened so far a bit cheeky. The dev stream started with the introduction of the Sufa, but actually, nothing at all. Absolutely nothing was said about this aircraft! Why 14.0? I have no idea, probably not even the developers know. When you consider that an F16 ADF can now use AIM 120 at 13.3 and the best flight model, it’s all the more questionable. I don’t know how you feel, but when I play the C Barak II, I exclusively use AIM 120. If you asked me, the Sufa in the BR would be a maximum of 13.7!
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Yeah I’m ngl I don’t understand how the sufa is at 14.0. Imo 120 c5 are worse than the normal a and b variants and this it should be max 13.7
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