Discussion for the IAF F-16I Block 52+ “Sufa”

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Heyo y’all, as of today the F-16I Sufa has been added to the game as a part of the “Tusk Force” Dev Server. It’s not on the live server yet, but it will be in the coming weeks with the updates release. Until then, I’ve created this thread to discuss the F-16I’s current implementation regarding bugs, armament options, and performance.

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The F-16I is a modified F-16D Block 52+ which was modified to suit the needs of the IAF. It features a vast arsenal on weaponry and is the most modern F-16 in IAF service, where it still serves to this very day.

Currently Known Bugs:

The more important ones:

• Missing Up to 6x Aim-120B AMRAAMs.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Denied.

• Missing LITENING C4 TGP (not ingame yet).
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

• AN/APG-68(V)9 missing GMTI mode(s).
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Open.

• AN/APG-68(V)9 maximum range too low:
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

• AN/APG-68(V)9 incorrect scan angles:
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

• SPS-3000 lacks 360 degree RWR coverage:
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Open.

• F-16s missing ability to carry GBU-39 on inner pylons.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

The less important ones:

• Missing DASH IV HMD:
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

Missing armament suggestion:

• Missing Rafael Python 4 AAM. (in files, not on vehicles ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing Rafael Python 5 AAM. (Not on aircraft ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing Raytheon Aim-120C-7 AMRAAM. (Not on aircraft ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing Raytheon Aim-120C-8 AMRAAM. (Not ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing Raytheon Aim-9X Block II Sidewinder. (Not on aircraft ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing Rafael Stunner air launched missile. (Not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing IMI Rampage AGM. (Not ingame)
Bug report:
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing IAI AIR LORA ballistic missile. (Not ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing IMI Delilah cruise missile. (Not ingame)
Status: Denied for now.

• Missing Rafael Popeye Have Lite. (Not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Elbit Lizard/Opher guided bombs. (Opher not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

Please keep this discussion civilized and on topic, thanks!

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Message reserved for listing updates made to the post:

Edit 1: Added incorrect Maws coverage report. Added Engine nozzle model report. Added Spice-250 multi mount report.

Edit 2: Added incorrect Countermeasure count report.

Edit 3/4: Added missing Aim-120B report. Added accepted status to CM count report.

Edit 5: Added TGP pylon report. Added Denied status to Aim-120B report (I haven’t given up yet).

Edit 6: Added this MASSIVE bug report for visual and other changes (likely will need to be split up): Community Bug Reporting System

Edit 7: Added missing GMTI mode(s) report.

Edit 8: Added accepted status to engine nozzle report.

Edit 9: added RWR and MAWS name reports.

Edit 10: Added thrust, scan angle, and radar range reports.

Edit 11: LITENING G4 TGP report added.

Edit 12: Removed Engine name report, Aim-120C-5 double mount report, and single Spice-250 mount reports on account of them being fixed.

Edit 13: Removed CM count report on account of it being fixed. Removed Engine thrust report on account of it being denied.

Edit 14: Removed MAWS coverage, MAWS name, engine nozzle model, and visual model inaccuracies reports on account of them being fixed. Updated AIR LORA, Rampage, and Delilah status to denied for now. Added missing DASH IV HMD report.

Edit 15: Removed incorrect RWR and TGP Pylon gap reports on account them being fixed. Added RWR missing coverage and missing GBU-39 reports.

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Shouldn’t there really be 240 countermeasures? Four dispensers in the belly of the aircraft and four in the spine.

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3 of the dispensers are modeled as large caliber dispensers, having 15 countermeasures each. If gaijin wants they can do what they’ve done in some aircraft before and model them as 30 each, but if they want to be consistent with the visual model it’s 45-150.

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The PW-229 is currently missing thrust, I am working on a bug report for that one @BasherBenDawg8 since I know how to report this one.

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I’ve seen other planes in the game that are modeled as large caliber and yet they count them as standard.
For example, this US F-16C Block 50 has 120 countermeasures, but two of the dispensers are for 15 large-caliber cartridges, which is why I say that gaijin places the countermeasures he wants at the end.

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Just for proof of carrying of the IAI Rampage, here’s an image from IAF photographers:

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This would be a great addition for long range stand off, as it serves a similar purpose to the Grom

Rampage on Israel F-16I 825

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it seem the radar does not have gmti, is it normal?

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It’s supposed to yes, that’s a bug. Thanks for noticing! I’ll report that right away since I have PDFs on it.

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Yep.
The Sufa is powered by the Pratt and Whitney F100-PE-229 IPE (Improved Performance Engine) with a maximum trust of 29,100 Lbs, Engine weight - 3,740 lbs

You can find the sources:

https://www.iaf.org.il/645-en/IAF.aspx

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Yes, gaijin does that for some aircraft. It stems from before split cm types existed. For instance it was only recently fixed on the F-16ADFs when they got Aim-120s. However it’s still a bug worth reporting and fixing.

Edit: the report was accepted and “the issue is known”
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HV233OYL7MbX

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thats like 3 more tons of thrust ;o

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Sufa missing the color MFD’s too

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i know the israeli website, i did not know of the IPE

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A new issue has been brought to my attention, that not only affects the F-16I, but also the F-16D Barak II.

The spine mounted countermeasure dispensers have an additional 5 countermeasures each, for a total of 35 compared to the 30 we have ingame.
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This means the Sufa and Barak II D can both receive an additional 20 countermeasures. Does anyone know the designation of this system?

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Alright, anyone know any good tech mods to ping about this? Rejected the Aim-120B report.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tfjUIQA3ehSV
“Not a bug”, uh yeah it is, and elaboration would be nice man. Like would you like sources, or do you just think it only needs the Aim-120C-5? I get either of those reasons, but it’s be nice if you gave them to me…

I also know a handful of players who prefer the Aim-120B over the Aim-120C-5. There’s also not a single aircraft that can only carry the Aim-120C-5 ingame right now and not be able to use the B alongside it.

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i only have access to the archive capture, where did you find the IPE variant

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We should also make a bu report for missing derby/I derby er

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Can you take off the cfts?

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