Discussion for the IAF F-16I Block 52+ “Sufa”

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Heyo y’all, as of today the F-16I Sufa has been added to the game as a part of the “Tusk Force” Dev Server. It’s not on the live server yet, but it will be in the coming weeks with the updates release. Until then, I’ve created this thread to discuss the F-16I’s current implementation regarding bugs, armament options, and performance.

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The F-16I is a modified F-16D Block 52+ which was modified to suit the needs of the IAF. It features a vast arsenal on weaponry and is the most modern F-16 in IAF service, where it still serves to this very day.

Currently Known Bugs:

The more important ones:

• Uses the AN/ALR-56M RWR, should use SPS-3000.
Bug report: (in progress)

• Countermeasures total incorrect, has 15 Large and 90 Standard. Should be 45 Large and 150 standard based on the visual model.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

• Missing Up to 6x Aim-120B AMRAAMs.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Denied.

• Mounts 2x Aim-120C-5s on the same pylon due to bug in code.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

• Mounts 4x Spice-250s on the same pylons due to bug in code.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted

• Missing LITENING III and LITENING C4 (not ingame).
Bug report: (in progress)

• PAWS 2 MAWS system incorrect coverage.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

• F100-PW-229 Engine missing thrust.
Bug report: (in progress)

The less important ones:

• F-16I visual model inaccuracies.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Open.

• MAWS name incorrect. Should be PAWS 2, not PAWS.
Bug Report: (in progress)

• Engine name incorrect. Should be Pratt and Whitney F-100-PW-229, not General Electric F100-PW-229.
Bug report: (in progress)

• Engine nozzle visual model incorrect.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Open.

• TGP pylon incorrect and has gap.
Bug report: Community Bug Reporting System
Status: Accepted.

Missing armament suggestion:

• Missing Rafael Python 4 AAM. (in files, not on vehicles ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Rafael Python 5 AAM. (Not on aircraft ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Raytheon Aim-120C-7 AMRAAM. (Not on aircraft ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Raytheon Aim-120C-8 AMRAAM. (Not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Raytheon Aim-9X Block II Sidewinder. (Not on aircraft ingame)
Big report: (in progress)

• Missing Rafael Stunner air launched missile. (Not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing IMI Rampage AGM. (Not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Rafael Popeye Have Lite. (Not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

• Missing Elbit Lizard/Opher guided bombs. (Opher not ingame)
Bug report: (in progress)

Please keep this discussion civilized and on topic, thanks!

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Message reserved for listing updates made to the post:

Edit 1: Added incorrect Maws coverage report. Added Engine nozzle model report. Added Spice-250 multi mount report.

Edit 2: Added incorrect Countermeasure count report.

Edit 3/4: Added missing Aim-120B report. Added accepted status to CM count report.

Edit 5: Added TGP pylon report. Added Denied status to Aim-120B report (I haven’t given up yet).

Edit 6: Added this MASSIVE bug report for visual changes: Community Bug Reporting System

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Shouldn’t there really be 240 countermeasures? Four dispensers in the belly of the aircraft and four in the spine.

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3 of the dispensers are modeled as large caliber dispensers, having 15 countermeasures each. If gaijin wants they can do what they’ve done in some aircraft before and model them as 30 each, but if they want to be consistent with the visual model it’s 45-150.

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The PW-229 is currently missing thrust, I am working on a bug report for that one @BasherBenDawg8 since I know how to report this one.

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I’ve seen other planes in the game that are modeled as large caliber and yet they count them as standard.
For example, this US F-16C Block 50 has 120 countermeasures, but two of the dispensers are for 15 large-caliber cartridges, which is why I say that gaijin places the countermeasures he wants at the end.

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Just for proof of carrying of the IAI Rampage, here’s an image from IAF photographers:

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This would be a great addition for long range stand off, as it serves a similar purpose to the Grom

Rampage on Israel F-16I 825

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it seem the radar does not have gmti, is it normal?

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It’s supposed to yes, that’s a bug. Thanks for noticing! I’ll report that right away since I have PDFs on it.

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Yep.
The Sufa is powered by the Pratt and Whitney F100-PE-229 IPE (Improved Performance Engine) with a maximum trust of 29,100 Lbs, Engine weight - 3,740 lbs

You can find the sources:

https://www.iaf.org.il/645-en/IAF.aspx

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Yes, gaijin does that for some aircraft. It stems from before split cm types existed. For instance it was only recently fixed on the F-16ADFs when they got Aim-120s. However it’s still a bug worth reporting and fixing.

Edit: the report was accepted and “the issue is known”
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HV233OYL7MbX

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thats like 3 more tons of thrust ;o

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Screenshot 2025-09-05 214811

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Sufa missing the color MFD’s too

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i know the israeli website, i did not know of the IPE

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A new issue has been brought to my attention, that not only affects the F-16I, but also the F-16D Barak II.

The spine mounted countermeasure dispensers have an additional 5 countermeasures each, for a total of 35 compared to the 30 we have ingame.
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This means the Sufa and Barak II D can both receive an additional 20 countermeasures. Does anyone know the designation of this system?

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Alright, anyone know any good tech mods to ping about this? Rejected the Aim-120B report.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tfjUIQA3ehSV
“Not a bug”, uh yeah it is, and elaboration would be nice man. Like would you like sources, or do you just think it only needs the Aim-120C-5? I get either of those reasons, but it’s be nice if you gave them to me…

I also know a handful of players who prefer the Aim-120B over the Aim-120C-5. There’s also not a single aircraft that can only carry the Aim-120C-5 ingame right now and not be able to use the B alongside it.

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i only have access to the archive capture, where did you find the IPE variant

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We should also make a bu report for missing derby/I derby er

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Can you take off the cfts?