(Discussion) Dreams Come True: 2024-2025 for Sweden

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We are less than one month until November and we have not a sign of vehicle that could come in a second event;

Today I’m sharing some vehicles and my thoughs about each one and why they should be added.

UDES XX19: (IFV/Light tank)

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The Swedish TAM uses a chassis similar to those found in vehicles like the TAM, Begleitpanzer 57, and Marder IFV.

I see it as a good alternative to add this specific vehicle to begin the implementation of UDES concepts in the game, as it is by far the most advanced compared to the others.

There is a variation, a similar vehicle developed in Germany, which I don’t know much about but will attach below for those interested.

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UDES XX20: (Tank destroyer)

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The crown jewel, the UDES XX20 would be a great addition to the game with its articulated ammunition transport platform and a large blowout panel separate from the vehicle.

The vehicle itself, despite being unique, would have much to contribute to the game, and I could probably see it being added to the game at tier 8.7 along with similar vehicles like the Ikv-91-105, which, if I’m not mistaken, is equipped with the same cannon as the operational modification of the UDES XX20.

UDES XX15/16: (MBT)

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This one never existed. In reality, only the first variation out of a total of three full-scale mock-up vehicles was built, as shown in the attachment below. The first variation features a hydropneumatic control system, probably with hull aiming similar to the Strv-103 0/A/C/D and a 105mm gun with an autoloader.

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The vehicle is actually a concept to replace the Strv 103. Unlike the Strv 103, this one has a turret, which is a big advantage, especially considering that the vehicle would still maintain a low silhouette. Honestly I don’t have any argument for this to be added, but paper vehicles is a matter of time to be added into the game.

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Isn’t dreams come true meant for very known vehicles not yet ingame?

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Yeah. And so far it’s only been WW2 vehicles, I doubt they’d give us something this nice especially since Gaijin has said before they no longer want event vehicles to be too unique so new players don’t miss out on them.

Personally hoping for the StuG IV or the O-I.

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I don’t think they would do O-1 because there is not much documents about it, but a track survives. I don’t want to spark another O-1 argument because that was hell.

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O-I would imo be fine, since it gives japan a heavy tank.

Its moreso that it well…

Wouldnt be very good lmfao

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I quite heavily disagree with this. I see Dreams Come True to be more for WWII vehicles. It was for the Sturmtiger and TOG II, and that’s the way it should be. Also considering Mobile Sniper is for a ground vehicle, I’m guessing that this year’s Dreams Come True will be for a plane, and, considering the XP-72 was leaked, my money is on the XP-72.

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Aye, imo these ones are just vehicles that should come for sweden, not as this event.

I would like a swede vehicle though, wouldnt mind the '103 prototype or the Saab 210- though those are definitely pushing it.

give me my swede super spitfire rahh

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Oh yeah there are a ton of vehicles that should come for Sweden. Some 103 prototypes, the UDES XX19 and XX20, etc. I don’t agree with the Saab 210 because it never mounted armament. Regardless, I don’t think any of those fit in a Dreams Come True event. Dreams Come True is for the weird and wacky stuff that people have clamored for for years. Stuff like the V-173 “Flying Pancake” (I know it didn’t mount armament, but you get the idea).

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…yet

It hasnt mounted armament yet.

aight brb omw to forge some docum-

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Reminder that the O-I is likely the only possible heavy tank Japan has left that could be at rank III+ to do HT exclusive tasks. It seems like a perfect event vehicle being that it’s a derpy superheavy class with a 150mm howitzer and twin 47mm turrets, but realistically it would massively hurt future Japanese players to lock it as a limited time reward.

I don’t understand the hype for this tank. It feels as though half the community is begging for this minor production switch to a new chassis. I think they are blinded by the fancy roman numerals, if it was “StuG III Ausf. H” I’ll bet nobody would care.

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Depends on the source (?)

(I have only done some limited research into it, unfortunately)

Iirc it was also stated with twin 70mm and a long 105mm. Not a very good 105mm, only around ~140mm of pen based on my calcs, but it is a 105mm.

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I was about to ask about your sources, but then I went to go link the wiki page only to find that someone changed the armament.

All the blueprints of the prototype show it with the aforementioned 150mm and 47mm guns. I guess said editor was confused about planned versions of the O-I and the finalized version.

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Ahhh.

Tbh I wouldnt mind the prototype (150mm?) being event and the production being TT- its less fake then the Ho-Ri production ho-ri II when and would probably be more viable then the prototype.

Ill try and dig up more info on these things, probably see what I can find on the 103 prototypes too.

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You can’t leak classified info if you made it yourself… right?

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I would reccomend reading through Mai Waffentrager’s article on the O-I and its variants for better understanding.

Technically, there could be two different O-Is without diving into paper production vehicles. During tests, it is said that the 150mm main turret was not ready yet, so it was replaced with a wooden placeholder.

This would mean that the two 47mm Type 1 cannons in the auxiliary turrets were still present, and so the tank could technically function in a very unique way with two secondary guns instead of one primary.

In addition, if I recall correctly the armor was initially 75mm during testing, but it was planned to add an extra 75mm plate for a total of 150mm of frontal armor in service. So we could have the “prototype” version with two 47mm guns and 75mm of frontal armor and the “production” version with the 150mm+two 47mm guns and 150mm of frontal armor.

The O-I argument as another commentator has pointed out is a battle that has been fought many times over, but with such a signifigant tank that Gaijin might consider for an anniversary event, I don’t see the issue with casual conversation about it in a non-designated channel.

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Honestly if placed at a decent rank (At least rank III, gaijoobles), the prototype could be pretty good, and at least unique, same with the 150mm (M109 heavy tank no way)

Im trying to track down where the 105mm came from- unfortunately I have reached a dead end, as I cannot find the book I need.
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GODDAMN YOU OBSCURE JAPANESE BOOKS

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>:3

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Too bad @aizenns isn’t still around, I’m sure they could dig up some useful information considering their very well-researched Ho-Ri II suggestion on the old forum.

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Waffentrager is the reason we have the ho-ri in the first place. I wouldn’t put any stock in his posts tbh.

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Well the post that aizenns made on the old forum has actual historical documentation backing up the Ho-Ri II version as being the one that reached the prototype stage. Meanwhile, I’m not sure I’ve seen any of the same evidence from Mai Waffentrager regarding the Ho-Ri III version we have now.

Not to mention, I don’t remember whether or not the Ho-Ri Production was her idea or not but according to you that vehicle is also a biproduct of her work.

But let us not discuss this right now, it isn’t quite the appropriate thread for such things.

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